Messages In This Digest (9 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: ABS vs. Base Model From: Andrew
- 1b.
- Re: ABS vs. Base Model From: GHOF@aol.com
- 1c.
- Re: ABS vs. Base Model From: BruceK
- 2.
- Back on a Reflex ... '05 Silverwing for sale From: too_canaille
- 3a.
- Registering out of state purchase in California From: donedeal999
- 3b.
- Re: Registering out of state purchase in California From: BruceK
- 4a.
- Wobbly steering From: jgibsonioni
- 4b.
- Re: Wobbly steering From: John D
- 5.1.
- File - New Membership Request - IGNORE if you are a member.txt From: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
Messages
- 1a.
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Re: ABS vs. Base Model
Posted by: "Andrew" overniagara@roadrunner.com dimaggio84
Sat May 1, 2010 6:02 am (PDT)
We have two '07 Reflex Sports, one the ABS model & one the non. I've ridden a 3rd one a few times as well---an '03 Sport a friend has which he bought used. There is a bit of a difference in the braking between the two models, but not noticeable enough to conclude that there is a huge difference. The ABS braking is a tad quicker and very even. I don't do much riding in the rain, unless I am caught in it, so most of my driving is on dry pavement. The non-ABS is still excellent with stopping, and the overall difference in feel is minimal. Incidentally, I have logged 4000 miles on the ABS, and maybe 200 miles on the non.
Now, if I were buying new and two were side-by-side on the showroom floor, I'd go for the ABS. If they had one, a non-ABS, I wouldn't hesitate to buy that one. My real-life scenario was exactly this---I bought the last Reflex in the Buffalo area, the ABS model. One month later, after a dealer search, we purchased the only Reflex left within a two-hour radius. It was the non-ABS. It was the last one available so we bought it, and it has been fantastic in every way.
For today's used market, I wouldn't look specifically for an ABS model. If one was available, great. If a non-ABS came first at a decent price, I wouldn't hesitate at all---I'd buy it. The non-ABS is so close in performance that you just may pass up a few good deals trying to wait for an ABS model. Either model performs nicely when it comes to the braking.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
Andrew
--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups. , "jaluvri" <jaluvri@...com > wrote:
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> Has anyone rode both a base model and an ABS model? Should I set aside a GOOD deal on a base to pursue an ABS model? Most I find seem to be base models. Real world experience in this matter would be helpful. Thanx for your help guys!!
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Re: ABS vs. Base Model
Posted by: "GHOF@aol.com" GHOF@aol.com GHOFSys
Sat May 1, 2010 7:34 am (PDT)
How can you tell a non-ABS from the ABS, without riding one or both? Are the master cylinders different?
RRon
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew <overniagara@roadrunner. >com
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 8:01 am
Subject: Honda Reflex Group Re: ABS vs. Base Model
We have two '07 Reflex Sports, one the ABS model & one the non. I've ridden a 3rd one a few times as well---an '03 Sport a friend has which he bought used. There is a bit of a difference in the braking between the two models, but not noticeable enough to conclude that there is a huge difference. The ABS braking is a tad quicker and very even. I don't do much riding in the rain, unless I am caught in it, so most of my driving is on dry pavement. The non-ABS is still excellent with stopping, and the overall difference in feel is minimal. Incidentally, I have logged 4000 miles on the ABS, and maybe 200 miles on the non.
Now, if I were buying new and two were side-by-side on the showroom floor, I'd go for the ABS. If they had one, a non-ABS, I wouldn't hesitate to buy that one. My real-life scenario was exactly this---I bought the last Reflex in the Buffalo area, the ABS model. One month later, after a dealer search, we purchased the only Reflex left within a two-hour radius. It was the non-ABS. It was the last one available so we bought it, and it has been fantastic in every way.
For today's used market, I wouldn't look specifically for an ABS model. If one was available, great. If a non-ABS came first at a decent price, I wouldn't hesitate at all---I'd buy it. The non-ABS is so close in performance that you just may pass up a few good deals trying to wait for an ABS model. Either model performs nicely when it comes to the braking.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
Andrew
--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups. , "jaluvri" <jaluvri@...com > wrote:
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> Has anyone rode both a base model and an ABS model? Should I set aside a GOOD deal on a base to pursue an ABS model? Most I find seem to be base models. Real world experience in this matter would be helpful. Thanx for your help guys!!
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- 1c.
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Re: ABS vs. Base Model
Posted by: "BruceK" bruce@aplusservices.com bruceakoehler
Sat May 1, 2010 1:26 pm (PDT)
There is an "ABS" label on the bike, and "ABS" indicator on the speedometer, and wires coming from near the brake disks.
Bruce
--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups. , GHOF@... wrote:com
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> How can you tell a non-ABS from the ABS, without riding one or both? Are the master cylinders different?
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> RRon
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew <overniagara@...>
> To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 8:01 am
> Subject: Honda Reflex Group Re: ABS vs. Base Model
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> We have two '07 Reflex Sports, one the ABS model & one the non. I've ridden a 3rd one a few times as well---an '03 Sport a friend has which he bought used. There is a bit of a difference in the braking between the two models, but not noticeable enough to conclude that there is a huge difference. The ABS braking is a tad quicker and very even. I don't do much riding in the rain, unless I am caught in it, so most of my driving is on dry pavement. The non-ABS is still excellent with stopping, and the overall difference in feel is minimal. Incidentally, I have logged 4000 miles on the ABS, and maybe 200 miles on the non.
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> Now, if I were buying new and two were side-by-side on the showroom floor, I'd go for the ABS. If they had one, a non-ABS, I wouldn't hesitate to buy that one. My real-life scenario was exactly this---I bought the last Reflex in the Buffalo area, the ABS model. One month later, after a dealer search, we purchased the only Reflex left within a two-hour radius. It was the non-ABS. It was the last one available so we bought it, and it has been fantastic in every way.
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> For today's used market, I wouldn't look specifically for an ABS model. If one was available, great. If a non-ABS came first at a decent price, I wouldn't hesitate at all---I'd buy it. The non-ABS is so close in performance that you just may pass up a few good deals trying to wait for an ABS model. Either model performs nicely when it comes to the braking.
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> Good luck with whatever you decide.
> Andrew
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> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups. , "jaluvri" <jaluvri@> wrote:com
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> > Has anyone rode both a base model and an ABS model? Should I set aside a GOOD deal on a base to pursue an ABS model? Most I find seem to be base models. Real world experience in this matter would be helpful. Thanx for your help guys!!
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Back on a Reflex ... '05 Silverwing for sale
Posted by: "too_canaille" tedinger01@gmail.com too_canaille
Sat May 1, 2010 9:55 am (PDT)
Just got another Reflex,'07 ABS, about a month ago. I had an '04 ABS a few years ago but decided to move up to a Silverwing. The Silverwing is a nice bike but heavier and not as maneuverable as the Reflex. I LUV the Reflex :-)! It's the best bike for the type of riding I mostly do.
I also LUV this Reflex "community" ... people willing to share information and knowledge about the Reflex. I know we all truly appreciate Bruce for starting this way back when.
The Silverwing (with about 21K miles) is for sale ... I'm in no rush, haven't advertised online (Craig list), but would eventually like to sell it if anyone knows someone that might be interested. You can send me a private message/email ... I'm in central Louisiana.
It's good to be "back" :-)!
Ted
- 3a.
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Registering out of state purchase in California
Posted by: "donedeal999" pal996@lycos.com donedeal999
Sat May 1, 2010 12:05 pm (PDT)
Are there any additional fees/requirements to register a Reflex in California that was purchased outside of California?
JP
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Re: Registering out of state purchase in California
Posted by: "BruceK" bruce@aplusservices.com bruceakoehler
Sat May 1, 2010 1:26 pm (PDT)
Not as long as it was registered for at least 6 months (or maybe it's a year) in another state.
Otherwise you will have to pay sales tax.
No smog or other inspections on cycles.
And you won't have to take the riding portion of the driver's licensing test if you already have a cycle certification on your drivers license.
Bruce
--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups. , "donedeal999" <pal996@...> wrote:com
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> Are there any additional fees/requirements to register a Reflex in California that was purchased outside of California?
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> JP
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- 4a.
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Wobbly steering
Posted by: "jgibsonioni" gibson.joyce@gmail.com jgibsonioni
Sat May 1, 2010 5:18 pm (PDT)
I need someone to give me a bit of advice. When I bought my used Reflex a couple of years ago, I noticed that the front end sort of shimmied as I rode it down the street. The dealer looked at the front tire and it was really worn funny. Kinda like an "S" because, obviously, the front tire felt like it wobbled or something. Well, he said that it was worn funny because the tire was probably ridden with the air pressure too low. He gave me a new tire. It is now beginning to do the same thing and I'm very very careful to keep the air pressure constant as I can. What else can it be? Any of you mechanical guys have any suggestions?
- 4b.
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Re: Wobbly steering
Posted by: "John D" dc2daylight@yahoo.com dc2daylight
Sat May 1, 2010 7:50 pm (PDT)
Could be anything from a loose steering bearing to a bad wheel bearing to a bent frame. Hold the bars loosely when accelerating, riding at a constant speed and decelerating. Note what happens and how bad.
John in Seattle
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From: jgibsonioni <gibson.joyce@gmail.com >
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 5:18:45 PM
Subject: Honda Reflex Group Wobbly steering
I need someone to give me a bit of advice. When I bought my used Reflex a couple of years ago, I noticed that the front end sort of shimmied as I rode it down the street. The dealer looked at the front tire and it was really worn funny. Kinda like an "S" because, obviously, the front tire felt like it wobbled or something. Well, he said that it was worn funny because the tire was probably ridden with the air pressure too low. He gave me a new tire. It is now beginning to do the same thing and I'm very very careful to keep the air pressure constant as I can. What else can it be? Any of you mechanical guys have any suggestions?
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File - New Membership Request - IGNORE if you are a member.txt
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Sun May 2, 2010 3:59 am (PDT)
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