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1a.: Re: Reflex air filter From: Bruce
1b.: Re: Reflex air filter From: csburridge
1c.: Re: Reflex air filter From: csburridge
1d.: Re: Reflex air filter From: Bruce
1e.: Re: Reflex air filter From: Donald
1f.: Re: Reflex air filter From: Michael

2a.: Brake pad From: LEDUCTHO
2b.: Re: Brake pad From: csburridge

3a.: Re: rear ended!!! From: Lincoln Fisher

4.: *ACTUAL* Honda reflex weight? From: Jonathan Vaughn

5a.: Re: Body panels interchangeable through the years / changing colors? From: rieger_cl
5b.: Re: Body panels interchangeable through the years / changing colors? From: jim borton
5c.: Re: Body panels interchangeable through the years / changing colors? From: BruceK
5d.: Re: Body panels interchangeable through the years / changing colors? From: jim borton

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1a.: Re: Reflex air filter

Posted by: "Bruce" bremus@ymail.com bremus@ymail.com

Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:25 am (PDT)

Scooter Shop.com lists a K&N airfilter for Honda Reflex 250, PN 10110894 @ $50.16 ea. Scooter Trap.com lists K&N Reflex filter for $55 (I believe this includes shipping?) I haven't ordered one yet, to confirm this, but I will be trying to order one locally first (perhaps Napa, etc, as I recently ordered a K&N filter for my Mazda MPV minivan). I will 'report' what I find out...Fezzik in WA

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <mcburns36@...> wrote:
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> haha That is awesome ! I want a picture.
>
> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "BruceK" <bruce@> wrote:
> >
> > True Confessions:
> >
> > I use a chunk of foam rubber (actually an industrial sponge) inserted into the gutted plastic frame from the stock paper filter. No oil on it.
> >
> > I don't have the brand and part # at hand - but I will post it WITH GREAT DISCLAIMERS when I retrieve it.
> >
> > And if I rode on dirt or gravel roads, I WOULD NOT DO THIS, as I have no basis for determining how effectively it removes foreign particles from the air.
> >
> > I DID learn in the process that the scooter DEFINITELY DEPENDS on having a RESTRICTIVE AIR FLOW filter in place. For experimentation, I tried to run the scooter without a filter briefly - and it ran WAY TOO LEAN.
> >
> > For what it's worth
> >
> > Bruce Koehler - the Koehlerizer
> > Santa Cruz, CA
> >
> > PS - NO - K&N does not offer a paper-element filter for Reflex.
> >
> > --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <mcburns36@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > anyone ?
> > > --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <mcburns36@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, Philip Cassel <casselp_2000@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > K&N almost surely makes a fine replacement, hard to find in stores, recommend Bike Bandit online.
> > > > >
> > > > and this is a non washable filter ? I was not aware K&N made a regular paper filter.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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1b.: Re: Reflex air filter

Posted by: "csburridge" csburridge@yahoo.com csburridge

Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:16 pm (PDT)

Hi,

50 bucks seems like a lot of money for an air filter high perfomance or not. I've been using Parts Pitstop out of Grand Rapids. Here's a link to the air filter housing:

http://www.partspitstop.com/pages/parts/viewbybrand/7/Honda.aspx
Hope this helps
Ride Safe

Craig Burridge

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce" <bremus@...> wrote:
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> Scooter Shop.com lists a K&N airfilter for Honda Reflex 250, PN 10110894 @ $50.16 ea. Scooter Trap.com lists K&N Reflex filter for $55 (I believe this includes shipping?) I haven't ordered one yet, to confirm this, but I will be trying to order one locally first (perhaps Napa, etc, as I recently ordered a K&N filter for my Mazda MPV minivan). I will 'report' what I find out...Fezzik in WA
>

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1c.: Re: Reflex air filter

Posted by: "csburridge" csburridge@yahoo.com csburridge

Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:52 pm (PDT)

Sorry folks,
That link only gets you to the parts supplier site, but just follow along to type-Scooter, model-NSS250A(or your model)and you'll come to the air filter housing page. $22.87 not to bad for an OEM filter.

Truth is, I cut out the media of an old filter and just use some 2" thick polyester media in it's place. This is the same type of filter we use on make-up air systems for restaurant kitchens, and this media has a great holding abilities. You can get these filters from Grainger. I have been cutting up a 20*25*2 polyester filter(Grainger part#5W104) for a little over 2 years now, and at this rate, it will last the life of the bike.

However, should try this type of filter. I HIGHLY recommend removing the whole filter when changing the media element. This will insure the dust trapped in the filter will not get into the engine. You will be surprised how much dust the filter will hold. And it goes everywhere when you pull out the element.

Again sorry about the link.
Ride Safe

Craig Burridge

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "csburridge" <csburridge@...> wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> 50 bucks seems like a lot of money for an air filter high perfomance or not. I've been using Parts Pitstop out of Grand Rapids. Here's a link to the air filter housing:
>
> http://www.partspitstop.com/pages/parts/viewbybrand/7/Honda.aspx
> Hope this helps
> Ride Safe
>
> Craig Burridge
>
>
>
> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce" <bremus@> wrote:
> >
> > Scooter Shop.com lists a K&N airfilter for Honda Reflex 250, PN 10110894 @ $50.16 ea. Scooter Trap.com lists K&N Reflex filter for $55 (I believe this includes shipping?) I haven't ordered one yet, to confirm this, but I will be trying to order one locally first (perhaps Napa, etc, as I recently ordered a K&N filter for my Mazda MPV minivan). I will 'report' what I find out...Fezzik in WA
> >
>

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1d.: Re: Reflex air filter

Posted by: "Bruce" bremus@ymail.com bremus@ymail.com

Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:33 pm (PDT)

I only bothered to post this because someone says "K&N doesnt make one for the reflex" Buy one if you want or don't....I'm only trying to give more useful information to this group. Including part numbers, and a source.......

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "csburridge" <csburridge@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> 50 bucks seems like a lot of money for an air filter high perfomance or not. I've been using Parts Pitstop out of Grand Rapids. Here's a link to the air filter housing:
>
> http://www.partspitstop.com/pages/parts/viewbybrand/7/Honda.aspx
> Hope this helps
> Ride Safe
>
> Craig Burridge
>
>
>
> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce" <bremus@> wrote:
> >
> > Scooter Shop.com lists a K&N airfilter for Honda Reflex 250, PN 10110894 @ $50.16 ea. Scooter Trap.com lists K&N Reflex filter for $55 (I believe this includes shipping?) I haven't ordered one yet, to confirm this, but I will be trying to order one locally first (perhaps Napa, etc, as I recently ordered a K&N filter for my Mazda MPV minivan). I will 'report' what I find out...Fezzik in WA
> >
>

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1e.: Re: Reflex air filter

Posted by: "Donald" donnyc426@hotmail.com crawl_daddy.02reflex

Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:30 am (PDT)

I have the K&N filter in my 02 Flex and it has performed well through the Fall, Winter, and Spring months here in Western Virginia. We have winters in the single digits and Summers in the 90s. Haven't had the filter in long enough to see how it does in the hot summer. The scoot fires up first try almost every time. Only time it has had trouble is after it sat all day in 85 degree heat. Had to give it a bit of throttle to start. Only happened once or twice, so it may have just been a bad tank of fuel. FYI, be very certain to get a good seal with the K&N filter as it doesn't have a gasket. You use a thick grease in the old seal groove to seal the filter in (provided with the filter). FYI, the stock filter is about $40 delivered through Bikebandit.com, the K&N is about $62. I know there are cheaper alternatives, but I live up a gravel drive and dust and dirt worry me, especially since the reflex air intake is quite low to the ground.

Don in Rose Hill, VA

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce" <bremus@...> wrote:
>
> I only bothered to post this because someone says "K&N doesnt make one for the reflex" Buy one if you want or don't....I'm only trying to give more useful information to this group. Including part numbers, and a source.......
>
> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "csburridge" <csburridge@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > 50 bucks seems like a lot of money for an air filter high perfomance or not. I've been using Parts Pitstop out of Grand Rapids. Here's a link to the air filter housing:
> >
> > http://www.partspitstop.com/pages/parts/viewbybrand/7/Honda.aspx
> > Hope this helps
> > Ride Safe
> >
> > Craig Burridge
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce" <bremus@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Scooter Shop.com lists a K&N airfilter for Honda Reflex 250, PN 10110894 @ $50.16 ea. Scooter Trap.com lists K&N Reflex filter for $55 (I believe this includes shipping?) I haven't ordered one yet, to confirm this, but I will be trying to order one locally first (perhaps Napa, etc, as I recently ordered a K&N filter for my Mazda MPV minivan). I will 'report' what I find out...Fezzik in WA
> > >
> >
>

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1f.: Re: Reflex air filter

Posted by: "Michael" mbr987@comcast.net bandito_two

Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:16 am (PDT)

K&N DOES make a filter for the Honda Reflex. part # HA-2500-1
which corresponds to Honda part # 17210-KFG-010. HOWEVER, this
only covers the model years 2001 through 2006. For model year
2007, the Honda part # is 17210-KFG-020.(I swear I saw it once,
but every time I look now, it lists the same # as prior years..
..... very weird) Anyway, all parts providers I checked all list
the same part # 17210-KFG-010 for replacement. So, even though
K&N only lists 01 through 06, it should fit the 2007 Reflex too.

http://store.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=HA-2500-1
There are also lots of ebay deals for a little bit cheaper.

The K&N is a cleanable/reusable filter. According to their ad:
"Our stock replacement air filters for street vehicles are covered
by our famous K&N Million-Mile Limited Warranty™ and will be THE
LAST AIR FILTER YOUR VEHICLE WILL EVER NEED."

That is why they cost 50 plus bucks. It might work out to be about
the same (maybe,maybe not) since the OEM filters are about $20.
So you'd think you would be ahead with the K&N for not having to
replace after what would be the first few OEMs. But, you need to
clean them and oil them regularly with K&N cleaner and use K&N
filter oil since using anything else voids the warranty. So that
expense adds up too.

Personally, I'm all for anything other than the hassle of the K&N
filter. I mean since you've got the thing opened up, just stick
an OEM filter in there... no messing around with volatile cleaners
and messy oily red overspray.(I know this because an ultralight
aircraft I once owned had K&N air filters.) I also think if you
have your own "recleanable/replaceable" method of replacement that
works, then go for it. I like the idea that Craig B. has since the
material he uses is specifically made to filter air. (though not
in as severe an enviroment as the road maybe.) And, it's not some
cheap and cheesy seat cushion, arts and crafts type foam rubber
either. So I suppose it would be no different than how we already
do it. And that is by cleaning/replacing it when the filter media
gets dirty.(How ever long that may take.)

Just my rather extensive 2 cents. (quite a bargain really......
cheap, but detailed and thorough.......mostly)

Mike B.(Rochester Hills Michigan Double Dark Side Rider)
(2007 Honda NSS250S Reflex Sport "Scarlet")
(2006 Honda FSC600A Silverwing "Jester")

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce" <bremus@...> wrote:
>
> I only bothered to post this because someone says "K&N doesnt make one for the reflex" Buy one if you want or don't....I'm only trying to give more useful information to this group. Including part numbers, and a source.......
>
> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "csburridge" <csburridge@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > 50 bucks seems like a lot of money for an air filter high perfomance or not. I've been using Parts Pitstop out of Grand Rapids. Here's a link to the air filter housing:
> >
> > http://www.partspitstop.com/pages/parts/viewbybrand/7/Honda.aspx
> > Hope this helps
> > Ride Safe
> >
> > Craig Burridge
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce" <bremus@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Scooter Shop.com lists a K&N airfilter for Honda Reflex 250, PN 10110894 @ $50.16 ea. Scooter Trap.com lists K&N Reflex filter for $55 (I believe this includes shipping?) I haven't ordered one yet, to confirm this, but I will be trying to order one locally first (perhaps Napa, etc, as I recently ordered a K&N filter for my Mazda MPV minivan). I will 'report' what I find out...Fezzik in WA
> > >
> >
>

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2a.: Brake pad

Posted by: "LEDUCTHO" leductho@yahoo.com LEDUCTHO

Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:20 pm (PDT)

Hi everyone,

Is this kind of brake pad good to use?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-NSS-250-NSS250-NSS250A-Forza-Reflex-Re-BRAKE-PADS-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem483a080234QQitemZ310211248692QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Thanks for your advice

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2b.: Re: Brake pad

Posted by: "csburridge" csburridge@yahoo.com csburridge

Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:06 pm (PDT)

Hi,
I have a set of kevlar brake pads on the front of my Reflex, but I haven't noticed anything better or worse than stock. They feel the same to me.
Ride Safe

Craig Burridge

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "LEDUCTHO" <leductho@...> wrote:
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> Hi everyone,
>
> Is this kind of brake pad good to use?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-NSS-250-NSS250-NSS250A-Forza-Reflex-Re-BRAKE-PADS-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem483a080234QQitemZ310211248692QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
>
> Thanks for your advice
>

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3a.: Re: rear ended!!!

Posted by: "Lincoln Fisher" lfisher100@comcast.net lfisher100

Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:16 pm (PDT)

LOL.
It is but she doesn't tug on it very often.
Plus it could have "low battery".....in which case, I'd be "off the leash"....

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4.: *ACTUAL* Honda reflex weight?

Posted by: "Jonathan Vaughn" spotchicus@yahoo.com spotchicus

Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:46 pm (PDT)

So I was looking online for how much the Honda Reflex weighs, and noticed something wierd. The honda press release site (and all the other spec sites) have the 07 Reflex weighing 375 pounds (dry), while reviews and spec sites for older models have it listed in the 340s (dry). Now one of these has to be wrong... does anyone know which is more accurate, or better yet, how much these actually weigh wet?

Thanks!

Jon

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5a.: Re: Body panels interchangeable through the years / changing colors?

Posted by: "rieger_cl" rieger@faircraft.com rieger_cl

Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:57 pm (PDT)

When I was shopping around recently, I found that ServiceHonda had the best prices on parts (at least the ones I was looking for for my 2002):

http://www.servicehonda.com/look-up-parts/03

The shipping was painful though. After they quoted me $30 shipping (which I thought was pretty good) for my shipment (including the very large front fairing), I later received an email saying it could actually cost an additional $59. I or could cancel my order but be stuck with a 20% restocking fee of approximately $60. Hmm, $59 to get what I ordered or $60 to get nothing, so I sucked it up. Lesson learned: call or email and get a firm quote on shipping up front.

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Vaughn <spotchicus@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Reflex owners! I'm new to the list, this is my first post. I don't own a reflex (yet!) ... have taken a Reflex part tell me if I'm missing anything here? (the numbers are the dollar prices rounded up to the nearest dollar... for parts with a L and R side I just added the cost of both sides together and rounded up).
>
> http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche.com/hondaeasttoledo/Honda_OEM/HondaSC.asp?Type=13&A=102&B=6
>
...
> Front Fairing 240.00
> http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche.com/hondaeasttoledo/Honda_OEM/HondaSC.asp?Type=15&A=102&B=22
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jon
>

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5b.: Re: Body panels interchangeable through the years / changing colors?

Posted by: "jim borton" gondola1545@yahoo.com gondola1545

Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:01 pm (PDT)

great website.... thanks.... what is the model of the reflex.... cn250????

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From: rieger_cl <rieger@faircraft.com>
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, April 29, 2010 8:57:39 PM
Subject: Honda Reflex Group Re: Body panels interchangeable through the years / changing colors?

When I was shopping around recently, I found that ServiceHonda had the best prices on parts (at least the ones I was looking for for my 2002):

http://www.servicehonda.com/look-up-parts/03

The shipping was painful though. After they quoted me $30 shipping (which I thought was pretty good) for my shipment (including the very large front fairing), I later received an email saying it could actually cost an additional $59. I or could cancel my order but be stuck with a 20% restocking fee of approximately $60. Hmm, $59 to get what I ordered or $60 to get nothing, so I sucked it up. Lesson learned: call or email and get a firm quote on shipping up front.

--- In hondareflexowners@ yahoogroups. com, Jonathan Vaughn <spotchicus@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hey Reflex owners! I'm new to the list, this is my first post. I don't own a reflex (yet!) ... have taken a Reflex part tell me if I'm missing anything here? (the numbers are the dollar prices rounded up to the nearest dollar... for parts with a L and R side I just added the cost of both sides together and rounded up).
>
> http://partsfinder. onlinemicrofiche .com/hondaeastto ledo/Honda_ OEM/HondaSC. asp?Type= 13&A=102& B=6
>
...
> Front Fairing 240.00
> http://partsfinder. onlinemicrofiche .com/hondaeastto ledo/Honda_ OEM/HondaSC. asp?Type= 15&A=102& B=22
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jon
>

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5c.: Re: Body panels interchangeable through the years / changing colors?

Posted by: "BruceK" bruce@aplusservices.com bruceakoehler

Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:05 pm (PDT)

Reflex is NSS250, or with ABS is NSS250A

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, jim borton <gondola1545@...> wrote:
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> great website....Â thanks....Â Â what is the model of the reflex....Â Â cn250????
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: rieger_cl <rieger@...>
> To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, April 29, 2010 8:57:39 PM
> Subject: Honda Reflex Group Re: Body panels interchangeable through the years / changing colors?
>
> Â
> When I was shopping around recently, I found that ServiceHonda had the best prices on parts (at least the ones I was looking for for my 2002):
>
> http://www.servicehonda.com/look-up-parts/03
>
> The shipping was painful though. After they quoted me $30 shipping (which I thought was pretty good) for my shipment (including the very large front fairing), I later received an email saying it could actually cost an additional $59. I or could cancel my order but be stuck with a 20% restocking fee of approximately $60. Hmm, $59 to get what I ordered or $60 to get nothing, so I sucked it up. Lesson learned: call or email and get a firm quote on shipping up front.
>
> --- In hondareflexowners@ yahoogroups. com, Jonathan Vaughn <spotchicus@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Reflex owners! I'm new to the list, this is my first post. I don't own a reflex (yet!) ... have taken a Reflex part tell me if I'm missing anything here? (the numbers are the dollar prices rounded up to the nearest dollar... for parts with a L and R side I just added the cost of both sides together and rounded up).
> >
> > http://partsfinder. onlinemicrofiche .com/hondaeastto ledo/Honda_ OEM/HondaSC. asp?Type= 13&A=102& B=6
> >
> ...
> > Front Fairing 240.00
> > http://partsfinder. onlinemicrofiche .com/hondaeastto ledo/Honda_ OEM/HondaSC. asp?Type= 15&A=102& B=22
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Jon
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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5d.: Re: Body panels interchangeable through the years / changing colors?

Posted by: "jim borton" gondola1545@yahoo.com gondola1545

Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:10 pm (PDT)

thanks much.... do you know anyhing about yahama engines that are 250cc....

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From: BruceK <bruce@aplusservices.com>
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, April 29, 2010 9:05:43 PM
Subject: Honda Reflex Group Re: Body panels interchangeable through the years / changing colors?

Reflex is NSS250, or with ABS is NSS250A

--- In hondareflexowners@ yahoogroups. com, jim borton <gondola1545@ ...> wrote:
>
> great website....Â thanks....Â Â what is the model of the reflex....Â Â cn250????
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: rieger_cl <rieger@...>
> To: hondareflexowners@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Thu, April 29, 2010 8:57:39 PM
> Subject: Honda Reflex Group Re: Body panels interchangeable through the years / changing colors?
>
> Â
> When I was shopping around recently, I found that ServiceHonda had the best prices on parts (at least the ones I was looking for for my 2002):
>
> http://www.servicehonda.com/look-up-parts/03
>
> The shipping was painful though. After they quoted me $30 shipping (which I thought was pretty good) for my shipment (including the very large front fairing), I later received an email saying it could actually cost an additional $59. I or could cancel my order but be stuck with a 20% restocking fee of approximately $60. Hmm, $59 to get what I ordered or $60 to get nothing, so I sucked it up. Lesson learned: call or email and get a firm quote on shipping up front.
>
> --- In hondareflexowners@ yahoogroups. com, Jonathan Vaughn <spotchicus@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Reflex owners! I'm new to the list, this is my first post. I don't own a reflex (yet!) ... have taken a Reflex part tell me if I'm missing anything here? (the numbers are the dollar prices rounded up to the nearest dollar... for parts with a L and R side I just added the cost of both sides together and rounded up).
> >
> > http://partsfinder. onlinemicrofiche .com/hondaeastto ledo/Honda_ OEM/HondaSC. asp?Type= 13&A=102& B=6
> >
> ...
> > Front Fairing 240.00
> > http://partsfinder. onlinemicrofiche .com/hondaeastto ledo/Honda_ OEM/HondaSC. asp?Type= 15&A=102& B=22
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Jon
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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