Monday, April 26, 2010

Honda Reflex Group Digest Number 4808

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1a.

Re: question to current owners

Posted by: "Ed" dunkkizing@yahoo.com   dunkkizing

Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:52 pm (PDT)





--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "gizmoear" <gizmoear@...> wrote:
>
> I currently ride a scooter with 16" wheels front and rear. I'm seriously thinking of adding a Reflex. Has anyone here rode both a large wheel scooter and a Reflex? If so I'd like to hear a comparison between the two. My area has some of the worst roads in the U.S.- my opinion- and I'm a bit worried how the smaller wheels will respond. Any and all responses are appreciated. Also- is there any problem areas I should look for with the Reflex? I haven't heard anything negative that stands out so far.
>
> Bob
>
Hello Bob

I own a Scarabeo 250 with 16 inch wheels and a Honda Reflex.
I purchased the Scarabeo first and really enjoyed riding it in the
Hills and twistes. Its has plenty of get up and go and handles well
in the curves and cross wind. The Scarabeo has 18,000 miles with the longest trip being 1100 miles.
The only problem is Mechanical. It got to the point I did not trust it
for a ride over 300 miles. The solution was to buy a Reflex.

Purchased Reflex in May last year and have make three trips on it and have had no problems. Just returned from 23000 mile ride across Texas.
The reflex is rougher riding and does not handle as well as the Scarabeo. The get up and go is not quite as good as the Scarabeo.
The day Honda starts importing their big wheel SH300 model I will purchase it the first day.
I do enjoying both scooter but prefer the Scarabeo around town and short rides.

1b.

Re: question to current owners

Posted by: "gizmoear" gizmoear@yahoo.com   gizmoear

Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:59 pm (PDT)





--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Ed" <dunkkizing@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "gizmoear" <gizmoear@> wrote:
> >
> > I currently ride a scooter with 16" wheels front and rear. I'm seriously thinking of adding a Reflex. Has anyone here rode both a large wheel scooter and a Reflex? If so I'd like to hear a comparison between the two. My area has some of the worst roads in the U.S.- my opinion- and I'm a bit worried how the smaller wheels will respond. Any and all responses are appreciated. Also- is there any problem areas I should look for with the Reflex? I haven't heard anything negative that stands out so far.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> Hello Bob
>
> I own a Scarabeo 250 with 16 inch wheels and a Honda Reflex.
> I purchased the Scarabeo first and really enjoyed riding it in the
> Hills and twistes. Its has plenty of get up and go and handles well
> in the curves and cross wind. The Scarabeo has 18,000 miles with the longest trip being 1100 miles.
> The only problem is Mechanical. It got to the point I did not trust it
> for a ride over 300 miles. The solution was to buy a Reflex.
>
> Purchased Reflex in May last year and have make three trips on it and have had no problems. Just returned from 23000 mile ride across Texas.
> The reflex is rougher riding and does not handle as well as the Scarabeo. The get up and go is not quite as good as the Scarabeo.
> The day Honda starts importing their big wheel SH300 model I will purchase it the first day.
> I do enjoying both scooter but prefer the Scarabeo around town and short rides.
>

Hi Ed- Thanks for the response. I have a Piaggio bv200 also with nearly 18,000 miles. I've had it since it was new and absolutely love it. I'm kind of in the same boat. It has not failed me but with the miles it has I'd like to have a "back-up" in case it does. I know the valves need adjusted etc. I'd like to use the Reflex and the bv so not to completely wear one out. Kind of goofy I know but I hate being without a scooter. The Reflex I'm looking at has extremely low miles, is in perfect condition, and is very well priced. I can have these two for way less than the price of a new Burgman 400 for example. The bv handles very well and I was wondering how the Reflex compared having never ridden one. For the kind of riding I do I think the Reflex should work- it would just be "different" from the Piaggio. The Piaggio is powerful for it's size so the Honda should be equal with 50cc extra displacement. The small tire size is the only thing keeping me from just getting the Reflex.-Probably just a mental thing that my brother-in-law planted in my head about small wheels. I never would have thought twice about it. I'm leaning towards getting it and if I don't like it I'm sure I can sell it without loosing anything.

Bob

1c.

Re: question to current owners

Posted by: "Ed" dunkkizing@yahoo.com   dunkkizing

Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:09 pm (PDT)





--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "gizmoear" <gizmoear@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Ed" <dunkkizing@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "gizmoear" <gizmoear@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I currently ride a scooter with 16" wheels front and rear. I'm seriously thinking of adding a Reflex. Has anyone here rode both a large wheel scooter and a Reflex? If so I'd like to hear a comparison between the two. My area has some of the worst roads in the U.S.- my opinion- and I'm a bit worried how the smaller wheels will respond. Any and all responses are appreciated. Also- is there any problem areas I should look for with the Reflex? I haven't heard anything negative that stands out so far.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > Hello Bob
> >
> > I own a Scarabeo 250 with 16 inch wheels and a Honda Reflex.
> > I purchased the Scarabeo first and really enjoyed riding it in the
> > Hills and twistes. Its has plenty of get up and go and handles well
> > in the curves and cross wind. The Scarabeo has 18,000 miles with the longest trip being 1100 miles.
> > The only problem is Mechanical. It got to the point I did not trust it
> > for a ride over 300 miles. The solution was to buy a Reflex.
> >
> > Purchased Reflex in May last year and have make three trips on it and have had no problems. Just returned from 23000 mile ride across Texas.
> > The reflex is rougher riding and does not handle as well as the Scarabeo. The get up and go is not quite as good as the Scarabeo.
> > The day Honda starts importing their big wheel SH300 model I will purchase it the first day.
> > I do enjoying both scooter but prefer the Scarabeo around town and short rides.
> >
>
>
> Hi Ed- Thanks for the response. I have a Piaggio bv200 also with nearly 18,000 miles. I've had it since it was new and absolutely love it. I'm kind of in the same boat. It has not failed me but with the miles it has I'd like to have a "back-up" in case it does. I know the valves need adjusted etc. I'd like to use the Reflex and the bv so not to completely wear one out. Kind of goofy I know but I hate being without a scooter. The Reflex I'm looking at has extremely low miles, is in perfect condition, and is very well priced. I can have these two for way less than the price of a new Burgman 400 for example. The bv handles very well and I was wondering how the Reflex compared having never ridden one. For the kind of riding I do I think the Reflex should work- it would just be "different" from the Piaggio. The Piaggio is powerful for it's size so the Honda should be equal with 50cc extra displacement. The small tire size is the only thing keeping me from just getting the Reflex.-Probably just a mental thing that my brother-in-law planted in my head about small wheels. I never would have thought twice about it. I'm leaning towards getting it and if I don't like it I'm sure I can sell it without loosing anything.
>
> Bob
>
Hello Bob
You will not like the Reflex unless you do the K-MOD.
I was going to sale mine avter a month it but did the K-Mod and it improve the git up and go very well.
The Reflex will still out perform 400 cc scoters in the curves and hills.

1d.

Re: question to current owners

Posted by: "Joe Barnhart" flaboye@gmail.com   jtbgnsv

Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:01 pm (PDT)



Don't let the small tires prevent you from gettng probably the best scooter
honda built.

I put 70 a day on one, and even though I have the 600cc silverwng scooter, I
use the flex for daily commute.

The K-mod helps it be perkier, easily done and reversed if it's not for you.

I get avg 71mpg, and have about 46,000. I just put a fresh set of tires on
her and expect to do 4 or 5 more sets before it's life expectancy becomes
questionable.

I fully expect to exceed 80,000 on it. I would like to see a vespa, piaggo
or one of the other very well made scooters with the same mileage.

On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Ed <dunkkizing@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
>
>
> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com<hondareflexowners%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "gizmoear" <gizmoear@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com<hondareflexowners%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Ed" <dunkkizing@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com<hondareflexowners%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "gizmoear" <gizmoear@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I currently ride a scooter with 16" wheels front and rear. I'm
> seriously thinking of adding a Reflex. Has anyone here rode both a large
> wheel scooter and a Reflex? If so I'd like to hear a comparison between the
> two. My area has some of the worst roads in the U.S.- my opinion- and I'm a
> bit worried how the smaller wheels will respond. Any and all responses are
> appreciated. Also- is there any problem areas I should look for with the
> Reflex? I haven't heard anything negative that stands out so far.
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > > >
> > > Hello Bob
> > >
> > > I own a Scarabeo 250 with 16 inch wheels and a Honda Reflex.
> > > I purchased the Scarabeo first and really enjoyed riding it in the
> > > Hills and twistes. Its has plenty of get up and go and handles well
> > > in the curves and cross wind. The Scarabeo has 18,000 miles with the
> longest trip being 1100 miles.
> > > The only problem is Mechanical. It got to the point I did not trust it
> > > for a ride over 300 miles. The solution was to buy a Reflex.
> > >
> > > Purchased Reflex in May last year and have make three trips on it and
> have had no problems. Just returned from 23000 mile ride across Texas.
> > > The reflex is rougher riding and does not handle as well as the
> Scarabeo. The get up and go is not quite as good as the Scarabeo.
> > > The day Honda starts importing their big wheel SH300 model I will
> purchase it the first day.
> > > I do enjoying both scooter but prefer the Scarabeo around town and
> short rides.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Hi Ed- Thanks for the response. I have a Piaggio bv200 also with nearly
> 18,000 miles. I've had it since it was new and absolutely love it. I'm kind
> of in the same boat. It has not failed me but with the miles it has I'd like
> to have a "back-up" in case it does. I know the valves need adjusted etc.
> I'd like to use the Reflex and the bv so not to completely wear one out.
> Kind of goofy I know but I hate being without a scooter. The Reflex I'm
> looking at has extremely low miles, is in perfect condition, and is very
> well priced. I can have these two for way less than the price of a new
> Burgman 400 for example. The bv handles very well and I was wondering how
> the Reflex compared having never ridden one. For the kind of riding I do I
> think the Reflex should work- it would just be "different" from the Piaggio.
> The Piaggio is powerful for it's size so the Honda should be equal with 50cc
> extra displacement. The small tire size is the only thing keeping me from
> just getting the Reflex.-Probably just a mental thing that my brother-in-law
> planted in my head about small wheels. I never would have thought twice
> about it. I'm leaning towards getting it and if I don't like it I'm sure I
> can sell it without loosing anything.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> Hello Bob
> You will not like the Reflex unless you do the K-MOD.
> I was going to sale mine avter a month it but did the K-Mod and it improve
> the git up and go very well.
> The Reflex will still out perform 400 cc scoters in the curves and hills.
>
>
>

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1e.

Re: {Disarmed} Honda Reflex Group Re: question to current owners

Posted by: "George Giftos" gcgiftos@utmi.net   gcgiftos

Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:24 am (PDT)



Just curious, Ed,

Why didn't you go for a SilverWing instead of the Reflex? Seems more suited for the kind of riding that you do.

George

On Apr 25, 2010, at 5:33 PM, Ed wrote:

>
>
> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "gizmoear" <gizmoear@...> wrote:
> >
> > I currently ride a scooter with 16" wheels front and rear. I'm seriously thinking of adding a Reflex. Has anyone here rode both a large wheel scooter and a Reflex? If so I'd like to hear a comparison between the two. My area has some of the worst roads in the U.S.- my opinion- and I'm a bit worried how the smaller wheels will respond. Any and all responses are appreciated. Also- is there any problem areas I should look for with the Reflex? I haven't heard anything negative that stands out so far.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> Hello Bob
>
> I own a Scarabeo 250 with 16 inch wheels and a Honda Reflex.
> I purchased the Scarabeo first and really enjoyed riding it in the
> Hills and twistes. Its has plenty of get up and go and handles well
> in the curves and cross wind. The Scarabeo has 18,000 miles with the longest trip being 1100 miles.
> The only problem is Mechanical. It got to the point I did not trust it
> for a ride over 300 miles. The solution was to buy a Reflex.
>
> Purchased Reflex in May last year and have make three trips on it and have had no problems. Just returned from 23000 mile ride across Texas.
> The reflex is rougher riding and does not handle as well as the Scarabeo. The get up and go is not quite as good as the Scarabeo.
> The day Honda starts importing their big wheel SH300 model I will purchase it the first day.
> I do enjoying both scooter but prefer the Scarabeo around town and short rides.
>
>
>
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2.

Air filter alternatives

Posted by: "mike" mcburns36@yahoo.com   mcburns36

Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:31 pm (PDT)



I need a new air filter for my 2003 reflex. Is Honda my only source for the air filter or are there any other companies that make a replacement air filter. I do not want a washable air filter. Just a simple replacement. Thank you

3a.

(no subject)

Posted by: "Andrea Pedigo" refspec@yahoo.com   refspec

Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:12 pm (PDT)



For a temporary fix we tucked it in and covered it with black electrical tape. It has held for over 3000 miles.

Andrea Pedigo

A Book Holds a House of Gold
David Crystal's As They Say in Zanzibar: Proverbial Wisdom from Around the World

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3b.

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Posted by: "rvtips" rvtips@yahoo.com   rvtips

Sun Apr 25, 2010 11:00 pm (PDT)





WHAT ????

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, Andrea Pedigo <refspec@...> wrote:
>
> For a temporary fix we tucked it in and covered it with black electrical tape. It has held for over 3000 miles.
>
>
> Andrea Pedigo
>
> A Book Holds a House of Gold
> David Crystal’s As They Say in Zanzibar: Proverbial Wisdom from Around the World
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

4a.

"tubas of mass destruction" lol -

Posted by: "lcoop99" lcoop99@yahoo.com   lcoop99

Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:29 pm (PDT)



interesting PBS program tonight -

"Tuba U: Basso Profundo" -
"The history and physicality of the tuba; tuba maestro Winston Morris; composer Gunther Schuller; German tuba makers; 100-member Tubas of Mass Destruction."

wonder if anyone here wld have been interested? :)

--el concerto grosso bozo

4b.

Re: "tubas of mass destruction" lol -

Posted by: "barrettpat56" barrettpat@hughes.net   barrettpat56

Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:32 am (PDT)



Sounds like right up Tuba Tim's alley!! Have you been moonlighting, Tim?

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "lcoop99" <lcoop99@...> wrote:
>
> interesting PBS program tonight -
>
> "Tuba U: Basso Profundo" -
> "The history and physicality of the tuba; tuba maestro Winston Morris; composer Gunther Schuller; German tuba makers; 100-member Tubas of Mass Destruction."
>
> wonder if anyone here wld have been interested? :)
>
> --el concerto grosso bozo
>

4c.

Re: {Disarmed} Honda Reflex Group "tubas of mass destruction" lol -

Posted by: "George Giftos" gcgiftos@utmi.net   gcgiftos

Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:40 am (PDT)



Hey Coop,

Not a complete history of the tuba, I'll bet. Did they mention Tim Hansen? LOL

George

On Apr 26, 2010, at 1:28 AM, lcoop99 wrote:

> interesting PBS program tonight -
>
> "Tuba U: Basso Profundo" -
> "The history and physicality of the tuba; tuba maestro Winston Morris; composer Gunther Schuller; German tuba makers; 100-member Tubas of Mass Destruction."
>
> wonder if anyone here wld have been interested? :)
>
> --el concerto grosso bozo
>
>
>
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> This message has been scanned for viruses and
> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
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