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1.1.: Re: battery From: Ira K

2.: Re: Pleasant surprise...Battery testaments From: wingit3611@aol.com

3a.: Re: Problem in Mexico From: wingit3611@aol.com

4a.: The Darkside's newest member From: Tim Hansen
4b.: Re: The Darkside's newest member From: thebubblepuppy2004
4c.: Re: The Darkside's newest member From: Joe Barnhart

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1.1.: Re: battery

Posted by: "Ira K" bigirakay@yahoo.com bigirakay

Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:09 am (PST)

Motorcycle batteries are like roulette. Some times you win and some times you loose. I have bought cheap batteries that lasted and expensive ones that did not, It is in the luck of the draw. I have a battery in a HONDA 150 SCOOTER that is seven { 7} years old and still works fine. I call it the magic battery. I put a expensive battery in my 82 MAGNA and after two years does not hold a charge. If the bike sits for a week it will not not start without a boost. Maybe batteries are more like women or men than roulette, only time will show if its a good one. In
rainy LONG ISLAND N.Y. BIGIRA

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Sat, 3/13/10, Michael
<mbr987@comcast.net>
wrote:

From: Michael <mbr987@comcast.net>
Subject: Honda Reflex Group Re: battery
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 12:23 AM

> --- In hondareflexowners@ yahoogroups. com, "doranosaurus" <doranosaurus@ > wrote:

>

> Does anyone know if the cheapo $55 battery works ok or is there

> any real benefit to buying the $120-$150 battery?

>

> Honda NSS250 Battery:

>

> http://www.google. com/search? hl=en&client= firefox-a& hs=QKn&rls= org.mozilla% 3Aen-US%3Aoffici al&q=honda+ nss250+battery& aq=f&aqi= &aql=&oq=

>

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Generally speaking, you get what you pay for. OEM and likely the more

expensive 3rd party replacements have more cold cranking amps (CCA),

better quality housings, internals and connectors than the cheaper

batteries. My guess would be that in warmer climes, and with bikes

that are well maintained to run good, cheap batteries would probably

be OK. (But, who knows for how long though?) It's when alot of demand

is put on a less than adequate battery that they just don't do what

needs to be done nor do they last very long. YMMV

Mike B.

(Rochester Hills Michigan Double Dark Side Rider)

(2007 Honda NSS250S Reflex Sport "Scarlet")

(2006 Honda FSC600A Silverwing "Jester")

( Both with a car tire on the rear )

(and scooter rear tire on the front)

"Great ideas often receive violent opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein

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2.: Re: Pleasant surprise...Battery testaments

Posted by: "wingit3611@aol.com" wingit3611@aol.com wingit3611

Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:43 am (PST)

Those that start without having been on a trickle or charger give a good
testament to that battery. My 03 has a 2 1/2 year old Walmart. Hasn't been
started since Dec. It got up to 50 here in KY and it turned over about 5
times, sputtered some and ran just fine.

Rick in KY
. __l__
'---o--(_)--o---'

" " "
I am a red neck: I remove my cap and place my hand over my heart when they
play the National Anthem

In a message dated 3/10/2010 1:42:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
rstidyman@yahoo.com writes:

Here in the mtns of NC, we have had one of the worst winters on record.
Yesterday though, the sun was shining and it got up to 59 degrees. This year,
I had the scooter parked on the back porch, which was open on the ned, and
the rear end of the scooter sticking out. I had it covered of course but
the scoot was still subject to the cold and wind. I expected to have to
charge the battery, but it started on the second try. So the first ride of the
year took me to the local gas station, where I topped off the tank with
fresh gas for when winter returns.

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3a.: Re: Problem in Mexico

Posted by: "wingit3611@aol.com" wingit3611@aol.com wingit3611

Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:29 am (PST)

Humming noise may mean the battery is connected BACKWARDS - or got charged
backwards!

Be sure the cable going to the FRAME (not red) is connected to the NEG (-)
battery
terminal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
When you connect the jumpers"black NEG (-) to black neg(-) & Red (+) to
red cable[remove it from the battery to start with, because a shorted battery
can drag down a good battery and prevent you from starting. {get old
battery out of the curcuit}]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Battery may be just too low. Try jumping to a NON-RUNNING car (with a 12
volt system - some OLD CARS have 6v).

Battery needs to read above 12 volts - with correct polarity - to start
the scooter.

You don't need a HONDA dealer for these basics - if the above doesn't
help, find ANY motorcycle repair shop - they should be able to deal with this.

Hope that helps

Bruce Koehler - the Koehlerizer
Santa Cruz, CA

Rick
. __l__
'---o--(_)--o---'

" " "
I am a red neck: I remove my cap and place my hand over my heart when they
play the National Anthem

In a message dated 3/12/2010 3:09:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
bruce@aplusservices.com writes:

Humming noise may mean the battery is connected BACKWARDS - or got charged
backwards!

Be sure the cable going to the FRAME (not red) is connected to the NEG (-)
battery terminal.

Battery may be just too low. Try jumping to a NON-RUNNING car (with a 12
volt system - some OLD CARS have 6v).

Battery needs to read above 12 volts - with correct polarity - to start
the scooter.

You don't need a HONDA dealer for these basics - if the above doesn't
help, find ANY motorcycle repair shop - they should be able to deal with this.

Hope that helps

Bruce Koehler - the Koehlerizer
Santa Cruz, CA

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4a.: The Darkside's newest member

Posted by: "Tim Hansen" phreadbarnz@gmail.com phreadbarnz

Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:44 pm (PST)

I installed a "Classiro GT" 145/70x12 today.
This tire was shipped from Seven Enterprises Ltd. in Auburn, CA.
(www.7ent.com)
I had a local independent motorcycle shop install it on the wheel.

I've put on close to 50,000 miles on two Reflexes. Because of the way I
ride and my weight, I average ~5,500 miles on a rear tire. The total cost
of the tire/shipping/installation was about 2x an OEM Hoop installed. Even
if I only get 11,000 miles on this tire, I've broken even. I expect to get
5 years worth of everyday riding.

I know that there are some on this list who think that installing a car tire
on the rear of a Reflex is stupid/dangerous/un-wise/etc. I am fully aware
of the risks involved. On every OEM Hoop I've had, by the time the rear
tire's wear indicators are showing, the tire has been squared off. I don't
anticipate the handling to be that much different. I did take it out for a
short spin and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary.

Be certain that I will (try and) post every day so you can know that I
haven't met a horrible/terrible death due to my new rear tire.

TravlinTim (who is looking forward to his next few mpg calculations as well)
Hansen
phreadbarnz@iwon.com

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4b.: Re: The Darkside's newest member

Posted by: "thebubblepuppy2004" bubblepuppy@dejazzd.com thebubblepuppy2004

Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:06 am (PDT)

What a coincidence. So did I. Exact tire from the exact same folks.

That, plus rear brake pads, final drive oil, Dr. Pulley sliders, new belt, valve adjustment, & re-gapped the spark plug. This was my 36k maintenance interval, even though I'm only at 35k presently. The rear Hoop being shot dictated the timing.

The skins are waiting to go back on (this A.M.), and I am anxious to give it a spin. Unfortunately, ANOTHER nor'easter is drowning us out AGAIN, in E. PA. Hopefully I can test it out today.

Tim, I thought you had a tire changer...why'd you pay for the tire mount? Sounds un-Tim like.

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Hansen" <phreadbarnz@...> wrote:
>
> I installed a "Classiro GT" 145/70x12 today.
> This tire was shipped from Seven Enterprises Ltd. in Auburn, CA.
> (www.7ent.com)
> I had a local independent motorcycle shop install it on the wheel.
>
> I've put on close to 50,000 miles on two Reflexes. Because of the way I
> ride and my weight, I average ~5,500 miles on a rear tire. The total cost
> of the tire/shipping/installation was about 2x an OEM Hoop installed. Even
> if I only get 11,000 miles on this tire, I've broken even. I expect to get
> 5 years worth of everyday riding.
>
> I know that there are some on this list who think that installing a car tire
> on the rear of a Reflex is stupid/dangerous/un-wise/etc. I am fully aware
> of the risks involved. On every OEM Hoop I've had, by the time the rear
> tire's wear indicators are showing, the tire has been squared off. I don't
> anticipate the handling to be that much different. I did take it out for a
> short spin and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary.
>
> Be certain that I will (try and) post every day so you can know that I
> haven't met a horrible/terrible death due to my new rear tire.
>
> TravlinTim (who is looking forward to his next few mpg calculations as well)
> Hansen
> phreadbarnz@...
>

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4c.: Re: The Darkside's newest member

Posted by: "Joe Barnhart" flaboye@gmail.com jtbgnsv

Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:50 am (PDT)

Well, I think I might mount my federal which has been sitting, I am on a
worn rear avon right now at 8,000 and with the miles I rack up I can either
try another set of hoops which got 10,000 on the rear or I can just mount
the federal.

It's good to hear you are trying this. I remember when I asked about this a
year ago, you were one of the ones asking "why would I consider doing it"

So, economics I see and the fact that you said "by the time I change tires
mine is squared anyway" exactly. One of the reasons I think it's "safe
enough" for a reflex and what we do with ours, as you said, everyday riding.

I'll post when I decide which way I'm going which is going to be within a
week.

I just don't see why they can't put a litte technology into cruiser and
scooter tires and do something about the crappy mileage we get off of them.

And, yea, I know for everyone who rides 1,000 miles a year it's not a big
deal, I ride 1000 miles every 3 weeks, so to me it's a big deal.

Joe

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Tim Hansen <phreadbarnz@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> I installed a "Classiro GT" 145/70x12 today.
> This tire was shipped from Seven Enterprises Ltd. in Auburn, CA.
> (www.7ent.com)
> I had a local independent motorcycle shop install it on the wheel.
>
> I've put on close to 50,000 miles on two Reflexes. Because of the way I
> ride and my weight, I average ~5,500 miles on a rear tire. The total cost
> of the tire/shipping/installation was about 2x an OEM Hoop installed. Even
> if I only get 11,000 miles on this tire, I've broken even. I expect to get
> 5 years worth of everyday riding.
>
> I know that there are some on this list who think that installing a car
> tire
> on the rear of a Reflex is stupid/dangerous/un-wise/etc. I am fully aware
> of the risks involved. On every OEM Hoop I've had, by the time the rear
> tire's wear indicators are showing, the tire has been squared off. I don't
> anticipate the handling to be that much different. I did take it out for a
> short spin and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary.
>
> Be certain that I will (try and) post every day so you can know that I
> haven't met a horrible/terrible death due to my new rear tire.
>
> TravlinTim (who is looking forward to his next few mpg calculations as
> well)
> Hansen
> phreadbarnz@iwon.com <phreadbarnz%40iwon.com>
>
>
>
>

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