Thursday, December 31, 2009

Honda Reflex Group Digest Number 4699

Messages In This Digest (13 Messages)

1a.
Re: 26,2 From: Michael
1b.
Re: 26,2 From: Joe Barnhart
1c.
Re: 26,2 From: neclark
1d.
Re: 26,2 From: Michael
2.
The Unthinkable From: riderxt56
3a.
Rear Trunk Shopping. From: brian_cirulnick
3b.
Re: Rear Trunk Shopping. From: Carla Williamson
3c.
Re: Rear Trunk Shopping. From: TubaTim
4.
the unthinkable From: tonymarchman@att.net
5a.
Re: Who is missing a Reflex? From: tailmaster
6a.
Re: 40k club From: tailmaster
6b.
Re: 40k club From: tailmaster
7a.
Re: OT - Have a Blessed Christmas! From: Michael

Messages

1a.

Re: 26,2

Posted by: "Michael" mikeestlick@elpasoco.com   michaelestlick

Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:31 am (PST)



My Reflex is my main mode of transportation here in Colorado and as long as there is no ice or snow on the road I ride. The coldest morning I have had in the past three years is 7 deg. The average morning is betwen 15 and 20 deg. It really is not that bad with good winter gear and my Reflex has never complained once.

I have close to 10K on my 2006 Reflex that I bought new and have performed all required matenance and have replaced tires and break pads once. She starts right up without issue no matter how cold so far. :)

Mike

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, Joe Barnhart <flaboye@...> wrote:
>
> Well they say to be courage and foolishness share commonality!
>
> There was actually ice on the windshield and the tires, which I had to rinse
> off with a bucket. The roads here never ice over though, so once I was on
> the road all was well.
>
> I survived it, this Saturday night they're saying mid to low 20's so I may
> break the 26.2 record on my Sunday ride.
>
> In Florida we get to ride all year no matter the temp. I remember 18
> degrees one winter here, but wasn't riding bikes then.
>
> I have the 210 givi shield which doesn't do anything for your hands, it does
> keep most wind to the top of my helmet, I'm 5'11.
>
> I do not have the leg shields or hand shields that are available.
>
> I put on thermals, then jeans, then a long sleeve t over the thermal top.
>
> Then the Joe rocket textile with liner.
>
> Then I put on some balloon pants to cover the jeans as jeans nor thermals
> cut the wind.
>
> Then I put on Cortech scarab winter gloves.
>
> It wasn't all that bad, but I did keep the face shield sealed the whole way.
>
> The temp guage never got over 1/4, on normal Florida days it would run a
> little over 1/2 where everyone said theirs usually runs.
>
> So the motor was very cool today!
>
> Joe
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Mike <Ursamajor@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > You're either Very brave or Very foolish. I'll let you decide which. ))
> >
> > --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com<hondareflexowners%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Joe Barnhart <flaboye@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well here goes the coldest ride I've ever done.
> > >
> > > It's 26.2 outside grrrrrr......
> > >
> > > Flexer was very uhhappy about cranking this morning, lol.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

1b.

Re: 26,2

Posted by: "Joe Barnhart" flaboye@gmail.com   jtbgnsv

Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:56 am (PST)



Awesome!

Yea, I use mine every day for about 60-100 miles depending on how many trips
I make, but at least 60'ish a day.

Yesterday the battery seemed a little weaker than normal that's probably
normal this battery at least has never experienced that temp.

The coming week is supposed to be mid to low 20's!

I survived the ride, as you said bundling up in layers works miracles for
warmth!

Everybody thought I was an idiot for not taking the car, but hey, I can
spend 3.00 or 9.00, I opt for the 3.00 and I enjoy riding the thing anyway,
so two birds with one stone.

Joe

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Michael <mikeestlick@elpasoco.com> wrote:

>
>
> My Reflex is my main mode of transportation here in Colorado and as long as
> there is no ice or snow on the road I ride. The coldest morning I have had
> in the past three years is 7 deg. The average morning is betwen 15 and 20
> deg. It really is not that bad with good winter gear and my Reflex has never
> complained once.
>
> I have close to 10K on my 2006 Reflex that I bought new and have performed
> all required matenance and have replaced tires and break pads once. She
> starts right up without issue no matter how cold so far. :)
>
> Mike
>
> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com<hondareflexowners%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Joe Barnhart <flaboye@...> wrote:
> >
> > Well they say to be courage and foolishness share commonality!
> >
> > There was actually ice on the windshield and the tires, which I had to
> rinse
> > off with a bucket. The roads here never ice over though, so once I was on
> > the road all was well.
> >
> > I survived it, this Saturday night they're saying mid to low 20's so I
> may
> > break the 26.2 record on my Sunday ride.
> >
> > In Florida we get to ride all year no matter the temp. I remember 18
> > degrees one winter here, but wasn't riding bikes then.
> >
> > I have the 210 givi shield which doesn't do anything for your hands, it
> does
> > keep most wind to the top of my helmet, I'm 5'11.
> >
> > I do not have the leg shields or hand shields that are available.
> >
> > I put on thermals, then jeans, then a long sleeve t over the thermal top.
> >
> > Then the Joe rocket textile with liner.
> >
> > Then I put on some balloon pants to cover the jeans as jeans nor thermals
> > cut the wind.
> >
> > Then I put on Cortech scarab winter gloves.
> >
> > It wasn't all that bad, but I did keep the face shield sealed the whole
> way.
> >
> > The temp guage never got over 1/4, on normal Florida days it would run a
> > little over 1/2 where everyone said theirs usually runs.
> >
> > So the motor was very cool today!
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Mike <Ursamajor@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > You're either Very brave or Very foolish. I'll let you decide which. ))
> > >
> > > --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com<hondareflexowners%40yahoogroups.com>
> <hondareflexowners%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > Joe Barnhart <flaboye@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well here goes the coldest ride I've ever done.
> > > >
> > > > It's 26.2 outside grrrrrr......
> > > >
> > > > Flexer was very uhhappy about cranking this morning, lol.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

1c.

Re: 26,2

Posted by: "neclark" neclark@rc-recon.com   neclark90723

Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:26 am (PST)



I dunno...26.2 degrees Celsius wouldn't be too bad...(which would be 79.2F).

Right now, it's drizzling on preparations for Friday's Rose Parade in Pasadena, CA

NC in (normally) Sunny SoCal

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, Joe Barnhart <flaboye@...> wrote:
>
> Well here goes the coldest ride I've ever done.
>
> It's 26.2 outside grrrrrr......
>
> Flexer was very uhhappy about cranking this morning, lol.
>
> Joe
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

1d.

Re: 26,2

Posted by: "Michael" mikeestlick@elpasoco.com   michaelestlick

Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:28 am (PST)



You sure put more miles on it a day than I do. My ride is usually around 25 miles a day. What is interesting is that I am not alone anymore, even on the cold mornings. I usually see half a dozen to a dozen other scoots on the road with me all bundled up!

My main reason is gas. I can spend around $10 to $15 a month on my Reflex or drive my truck at $160 to $200 a month. For that much of a savings I choose my Reflex when it's not icy or snowing.

What do you use for a helmet? I found an HJC Snowmobile helmet that really works well. It is exactly the same helmet as the street helmet but the visor is different. It actually has dual pane widshield that does not fog up as easy in the extream cold.....very nice feature.

Mike

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, Joe Barnhart <flaboye@...> wrote:
>
> Awesome!
>
> Yea, I use mine every day for about 60-100 miles depending on how many trips
> I make, but at least 60'ish a day.
>
> Yesterday the battery seemed a little weaker than normal that's probably
> normal this battery at least has never experienced that temp.
>
> The coming week is supposed to be mid to low 20's!
>
> I survived the ride, as you said bundling up in layers works miracles for
> warmth!
>
> Everybody thought I was an idiot for not taking the car, but hey, I can
> spend 3.00 or 9.00, I opt for the 3.00 and I enjoy riding the thing anyway,
> so two birds with one stone.
>
> Joe
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Michael <mikeestlick@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > My Reflex is my main mode of transportation here in Colorado and as long as
> > there is no ice or snow on the road I ride. The coldest morning I have had
> > in the past three years is 7 deg. The average morning is betwen 15 and 20
> > deg. It really is not that bad with good winter gear and my Reflex has never
> > complained once.
> >
> > I have close to 10K on my 2006 Reflex that I bought new and have performed
> > all required matenance and have replaced tires and break pads once. She
> > starts right up without issue no matter how cold so far. :)
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com<hondareflexowners%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Joe Barnhart <flaboye@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well they say to be courage and foolishness share commonality!
> > >
> > > There was actually ice on the windshield and the tires, which I had to
> > rinse
> > > off with a bucket. The roads here never ice over though, so once I was on
> > > the road all was well.
> > >
> > > I survived it, this Saturday night they're saying mid to low 20's so I
> > may
> > > break the 26.2 record on my Sunday ride.
> > >
> > > In Florida we get to ride all year no matter the temp. I remember 18
> > > degrees one winter here, but wasn't riding bikes then.
> > >
> > > I have the 210 givi shield which doesn't do anything for your hands, it
> > does
> > > keep most wind to the top of my helmet, I'm 5'11.
> > >
> > > I do not have the leg shields or hand shields that are available.
> > >
> > > I put on thermals, then jeans, then a long sleeve t over the thermal top.
> > >
> > > Then the Joe rocket textile with liner.
> > >
> > > Then I put on some balloon pants to cover the jeans as jeans nor thermals
> > > cut the wind.
> > >
> > > Then I put on Cortech scarab winter gloves.
> > >
> > > It wasn't all that bad, but I did keep the face shield sealed the whole
> > way.
> > >
> > > The temp guage never got over 1/4, on normal Florida days it would run a
> > > little over 1/2 where everyone said theirs usually runs.
> > >
> > > So the motor was very cool today!
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Mike <Ursamajor@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You're either Very brave or Very foolish. I'll let you decide which. ))
> > > >
> > > > --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com<hondareflexowners%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <hondareflexowners%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > Joe Barnhart <flaboye@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Well here goes the coldest ride I've ever done.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's 26.2 outside grrrrrr......
> > > > >
> > > > > Flexer was very uhhappy about cranking this morning, lol.
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

2.

The Unthinkable

Posted by: "riderxt56" dwheeler2652@yahoo.com   dwheeler2652

Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:35 pm (PST)



I was cruising along enjoying a beautiful, clear, crisp afternoon. Instead of paying attention to the road I was daydreaming and I hit a twenty mph curve at about sixty five. The moral of the story - always pay attention. I know, it was stupid. I have ridden for three years and seventeen thousand miles and never laid down. Monday I did and was able to walk, or limp, away. My message is pay attention, wear good protective gear, dont skimp on a helmet, and dont think it wont happen to you. My 06 Reflex performed beautifully. I stayed with it as long as possible and laid it down on its side and was ejected. I was in the ditch by this time. My best guess is it is repairable for less than $800 in parts. My pride and ego will take a while. We reflex riders are driving a well built machine. Unless I can recover some leverage I may have a damaged 06 which still runs for sale.

3a.

Rear Trunk Shopping.

Posted by: "brian_cirulnick" techrat@obsolyte.com   brian_cirulnick

Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:54 pm (PST)



Ok... I have ordered Nelson's Air Deflectors, I've ordered a Givi 211 Windsheild, but I can't seem to find a decent Top-Box.

The ones under $200 seem to either garner reviews that they are awful, or the ones that aren't awful don't look appealing. I have a Silver Reflex (2001), and I'm trying to find something that doesn't ruin the look of the bike, but is also not made out of flimsy plastic.

I fail to understand why a decent plastic box has to cost more than $200 in order to be any good. I went through some of the photos to see what others have used, and sadly, some of those top-boxes are no longer made.

I have a basic Emgo box on my Vino 125 which looks nice on that, but somehow that same box just looks wrong on the Reflex.

I doesn't have to light up, but it should have a reflector built-in. Passenger seat-back is optional, not a deal-breaker either way. Anybody want to recommend something -- and make sure it's still available? (i.e. don't recommend unobtanium)...

3b.

Re: Rear Trunk Shopping.

Posted by: "Carla Williamson" csw02231958@yahoo.com   csw02231958

Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:52 pm (PST)



I am not sure what you paid for your Givi, but I sell Cee Baileys for the Flex for $90.00 + $10.00 for shipping
 Carla S. Williamson
 Into a each life a little rain must fall.  It is what we choose to do with it in the end that matters.  Will we allow it to benefit us or will it be our Nemesis.
Carla S. Williamson

 

________________________________
From: brian_cirulnick <techrat@obsolyte.com>
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 2:51:21 PM
Subject: Honda Reflex Group Rear Trunk Shopping.

 
Ok.... I have ordered Nelson's Air Deflectors, I've ordered a Givi 211 Windsheild, but I can't seem to find a decent Top-Box.

The ones under $200 seem to either garner reviews that they are awful, or the ones that aren't awful don't look appealing. I have a Silver Reflex (2001), and I'm trying to find something that doesn't ruin the look of the bike, but is also not made out of flimsy plastic.

I fail to understand why a decent plastic box has to cost more than $200 in order to be any good. I went through some of the photos to see what others have used, and sadly, some of those top-boxes are no longer made.

I have a basic Emgo box on my Vino 125 which looks nice on that, but somehow that same box just looks wrong on the Reflex.

I doesn't have to light up, but it should have a reflector built-in. Passenger seat-back is optional, not a deal-breaker either way. Anybody want to recommend something -- and make sure it's still available? (i.e. don't recommend unobtanium). ..

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

3c.

Re: Rear Trunk Shopping.

Posted by: "TubaTim" phreadbarnz@gmail.com   phreadbarnz

Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:16 pm (PST)



--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "brian_cirulnick" <techrat@...> wrote:
>
> I fail to understand why a decent plastic box has to cost more than $200 in order to be any good. I went through some of the photos to see what others have used, and sadly, some of those top-boxes are no longer made.
>

I love my Givi E52.
Givi can charge >$200 because of quality and reputation. Also you are paying for a custom fitted box for YOUR vehicle. You are also paying for R&D.

TravlinTim (who is going to the Parade tomorrow) Hansen
phreadbarnz@iwon.com

4.

the unthinkable

Posted by: "tonymarchman@att.net" tonymarchman@att.net   tonymarchman@att.net

Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:01 pm (PST)



You are not alone, I did something similar a few years ago. Entered the curve too fast and almost got it stopped and then the wheels slipped off the pavement. I landed on my butt while the scoot slid down the bank. Then the wheels caught and it did a roll over, a complete 360. When it came to a rest, it was sitting upright and the motor was still running. I was totally amazed, the windshield was not broken, the givi box was intact, no visible damage. I slid down the bank, jerked it around a bit to get the belly off the high ground it landed on and rode it out of the cornfield. I was a little bruised and much wiser. I have managed to avoid a repeat performance. I now have the nerve to just lean it on over and trust it to make the curve instead of trying to stop. (this was before I installed the car tire)
Tony in Tenn. with 41k on a yellow reflex with "a few light scratches"

5a.

Re: Who is missing a Reflex?

Posted by: "tailmaster" freedomfyter@yahoo.com   tailmaster

Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:29 pm (PST)



'05 is dark red
'06 is dark blue

Security is a Bully chain/lock and a Xena disc lock. :)

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "steve.stansberry" <steve.stansberry@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, I have been a ggod boy!! Maybe Santa left it for me knowing how much I miss riding!! What were the colors for '05/'06 Reflex's??
> Dark red/wine berry...pretty color!!
>
> Steve
> Roseville, CA
>
> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, Carla Williamson <csw02231958@> wrote:
> >
> > Now that is even more strange..........you have been a good boy this year, haven't you.
> >  Carla S. Williamson
> >  Into a each life a little rain must fall.  It is what we choose to do with it in the end that matters.  Will we allow it to benefit us or will it be our Nemesis.
> > Carla S. Williamson
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: steve.stansberry <steve.stansberry@>
> > To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Mon, December 28, 2009 9:30:11 AM
> > Subject: Re: Honda Reflex Group Who is missing a Reflex?
> >
> >  
> >
> > Even more weird...2 keys, on a key ring, were left in the ignition! My ChiP friend is having it towed to CHP impound. If they can't find any more inf, which I doubt, he asked if I wanted it back!?! Of course I do!!! I guess the color is kind of a 'wine berry'?? I don't know!!
> >
> > Steve
> > Roseville, CA
> >
> > --- In hondareflexowners@ yahoogroups. com, wingit3611@ .. wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > wierd, especailly that it was in your driveway? That's all that Santa had
> > > left for you Steve! Rick in Lou KY
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 12/28/2009 10:43:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > steve.stansberry@ ... writes:
> > >
> > > Last night I got home, from being gone since Friday, to find a Relex
> > > parked on my driveway! wierd!! Anyway, my neighbor is a CHP and this am we went
> > > to check vin# lic tag etc., etc.. Nothing! The vin has been removed, no lic
> > > and no other id on the scoot! What gives?? He, the CHiP did finally find a
> > > frame #. This is a dark red, almost black color, in very good shape,
> > > meaning no scratches or dings and has approx 17,000 miles. We think it might be
> > > a '04 or '05, but the only scratches on this scoot are the #'s on the
> > > lenses, all of them, have been scratched off. My CHipPer friend is checkin CHP
> > > computer as I write this! This is way off the wall!!
> > >
> > > Steve (scratching his head on this one)
> > > Roseviulle, CA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rick
> > > __l__
> > > '---o--(_)-- o---'
> > >
> > > " " "
> > > It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless
> > > minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds. Samuel Adams
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

6a.

Re: 40k club

Posted by: "tailmaster" freedomfyter@yahoo.com   tailmaster

Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:31 pm (PST)



There is a poll just made for you.

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, Joe Barnhart <flaboye@...> wrote:
>
> I flipped 40k on Christmas eve.
>
> I know there are a couple of polls in the group but I'm curious who is
> currently active here
> and what your mileage is, if you are over 40,000.
>
> I'm putting on about 1800 a month, so I'm wondering who has maybe 50k or
> higher. As I'm
> in Florida, there is no interruption to my riding.
>
> I wonder what the mileage record is for a reflex that's still running and
> hasn't had the engine
> torn into (current members, not old polls)
>
> Joe
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

6b.

Re: 40k club

Posted by: "tailmaster" freedomfyter@yahoo.com   tailmaster

Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:36 pm (PST)



wingit3611 got 75K miles/120K kilometers before needing a new top.

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, Joe Barnhart <flaboye@...> wrote:
>
> I flipped 40k on Christmas eve.
>
> I know there are a couple of polls in the group but I'm curious who is
> currently active here
> and what your mileage is, if you are over 40,000.
>
> I'm putting on about 1800 a month, so I'm wondering who has maybe 50k or
> higher. As I'm
> in Florida, there is no interruption to my riding.
>
> I wonder what the mileage record is for a reflex that's still running and
> hasn't had the engine
> torn into (current members, not old polls)
>
> Joe
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

7a.

Re: OT - Have a Blessed Christmas!

Posted by: "Michael" mbr987@comcast.net   bandito_two

Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:29 pm (PST)



--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "BruceK" <bruce@...> wrote:
>
> May you and yours have a very Blessed Christmas!
>
> Bruce and Janet Koehler
>
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
And a prosperous (as possible, despite the current circumstances)
New Year to all.
As a New Year resolution, I will endeavor to put more miles on both of my darkside scoots than I have before. (I know it sounds tough,
but somebody's got to do it. Might as well give it a go.) I may
continue a tradition that I started for myself at the start of 2009
and get out of the driveway (however short and brief) and ride a
scooter New Year's day. Failing that, watch for donuts in the driveway. (scooter created in the snow kind.) =8-)

Mike B.

(Rochester Hills Michigan Double Dark Side Rider)
(2007 Honda Reflex Sport "Scarlet")
(Hercules G2000T 155/80R12 car tire on the back.)
(Pirelli Diablo 150/70-13 scooter rear tire on the front.)

(2006 Honda FSC600A Silverwing) as yet unnamed
(Michelin Destiny 175/70/R13 car tire on the back.)
(Michelin Gold Standard 150/70-14) scooter rear tire on the front.)

**** While knowledge has power, It is what you do with what you
know that is important.
It gives the knowledge validity and demonstrates it's worth.
Use it wisely. **** (I wish I knew more)

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