Friday, May 14, 2010

Honda Reflex Group Digest Number 4828

Messages In This Digest (24 Messages)

1.1.
Re: Reflex not starting up, help... From: Carlos Moran
2.1.
Re: modded K-mod expectations - Warning! From: Ed
2.2.
Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning! From: BruceK
2.3.
Re: Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning! From: Ed
2.4.
Re: modded K-mod expectations - Warning! From: GeoB
3.1.
Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning! From: BruceK
3.2.
Re: Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning! From: Jonathan Vaughn
3.3.
Re: Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning! From: TubaTim
3.4.
Re: Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning! From: GeoB
3.5.
Re: Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning! From: GeoB
3.6.
Re: Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning! From: Joe Pal
3.7.
Re: Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning! From: rvtips
3.8.
Re: Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning! From: Jonathan Vaughn
3.9.
Re: Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning! From: Joe Barnhart
4a.
Re: Digest Number 4827 From: Richard Tidyman
4b.
Photo From: BruceK
5.
Fwd: Honda Reflex Group Re: Tire pressure indicators - from the S/Wi From: wingit3611@aol.com
6a.
Re: Reflex clear tail lens From: steve121168
7a.
Re: Scooter Road Rash From: steve121168
7b.
Re: Scooter Road Rash From: Joe Pal
7c.
Re: Scooter Road Rash From: Michael
7d.
Re: Scooter Road Rash From: jim borton
7e.
Re: Scooter Road Rash From: steve121168
8.
New member/owner From: icletl

Messages

1.1.

Re: Reflex not starting up, help...

Posted by: "Carlos Moran" losmoran@bellsouth.net   losmoran@bellsouth.net

Thu May 13, 2010 6:36 am (PDT)



Thank you, I'll try again..

From: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of BruceK
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:00 PM
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Honda Reflex Group Re: Reflex not starting up, help...

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:hondareflexowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "Carlos Moran" <losmoran@...>
wrote:
>
> " There is a drain on the carb floatbowl - follow the clear plastic tube
up
> from around the kickstand - there is a "screw valve" at the other end on
> the carb - back it out to drain the carb - drain it into a glass container
if
> possible - to evaluate what comes out."
>
>
<SNIP>
> When you say "the other end of the carb" do you mean opposite where the
clear hose attaches? (the screw would be facing the rear?) or is it on the
right side of the scooter? Opposite the kick stand?
> Sorry.... but it's hard to see. I can only look through the opening by
removing the battery cover or removing the black cover just above the kick
stand. I can see a screw right above the clear hose at the carburetor but I
couldn't get a screw driver if I tried.
>
> Los.
>
Take the battery cover off (under the seat) and you'll have better access.

Look in the FILES section - for the gas tank removal pdf file for some great
photos that will give you guidance.

Bruce

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

2.1.

Re: modded K-mod expectations - Warning!

Posted by: "Ed" dunkkizing@yahoo.com   dunkkizing

Thu May 13, 2010 8:22 am (PDT)



Hello All
I just change roller ramp plate, rollers and belt on 2004 reflex.
I have six 21 gram rollers in a BR ramp plate.
This is my opinion with no facts to back it up. I will redo timed
runs with video of speedometer.
1. top end speed increased about five mph.
2. Not as much noise.
3. RPM/speed ratio improved
4. Not quite the take off as with K-Mod but better roll and go above
forty miles per hour.
5. On take off the rmp would jump to around 7000 rpm and drop to around 6000 until I reached 55 miles Hr. Now The rmp jump to around 6000 rpm and drop to around 5500 rpm until I reach a little over 50 mph.
I do like it better than the K Mod and do not plan on going back to
K Mod. I have only put about 100 miles on scooter with the new rollers. Fifty miles around town and 50 on interstate.
I will ride it a while and maybe shave a gram off each roller.
I really like the way it runs and handles now. I did change tires to
city grip and really like them over the OEM hoops.

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "GeoB" <gab16@...> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the warning.
>
> yer welcome.
>
> > One thing I was thinking about was swapping to the Big Ruckus weights (and the weight holder, so the ramps are all equal), which should result in a similar overall weight but more linear acceleration, right?
>
> How confident are you of the equal ramps and such? THIS sounds interesting! Thanks for posting it.
>
> Have you seen this done? Do the parts interchange? Shouldn't be too expensive.
>
> Has anyone of us ridden a BR? Does it accelerate differenty than the Reflex?
>
> Be great if we could just slap those parts in there and they fit and worked linearly.
>

2.2.

Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning!

Posted by: "BruceK" bruce@aplusservices.com   bruceakoehler

Thu May 13, 2010 12:15 pm (PDT)



I have one comment - the ONLY way a VARIATOR can change the TOP speed is to have a DIFFERENT (LARGER) OUTER DIAMETER - and then it won't fir in the stock belt cover).

Variators all run out of shifting range (i.e. belt forced to the outside diameter) well before the scooter reaches TOP SPEED - that is why you will observe that the engine RPM will gradually INCREASE as the Variator is maxed out (typically around 45 to 55 MPH) and can no longer "shift" the drive ratio.

Changing the variator ramp profile, weights, and the rear pulley spring, can all change the shifting profile (power transfer function) - from the point the clutch engages until the variator maxes out with the belt forced to the O.D. - but that's the END of it's effect.

The only way to get more top speed (for a given scooter / rider configuration) is to increase the engine power, or to decrease the final drive ratio (the gears in the "rear end" - an option available from Malossi). And the latter will REDUCE acceleration rate - and will only add top speed if the engine has sufficient power to take advantage or that drive ratio.

If the top speed changed, it is either because the belt is new (wider), or the former belt was slipping.

For what it's worth

Bruce Koehler - the Koehlerizer
Santa Cruz, CA

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Ed" <dunkkizing@...> wrote:
>
> Hello All
> I just change roller ramp plate, rollers and belt on 2004 reflex.
> I have six 21 gram rollers in a BR ramp plate.
> This is my opinion with no facts to back it up. I will redo timed
> runs with video of speedometer.
> 1. top end speed increased about five mph.
> 2. Not as much noise.
> 3. RPM/speed ratio improved
> 4. Not quite the take off as with K-Mod but better roll and go above
> forty miles per hour.
> 5. On take off the rmp would jump to around 7000 rpm and drop to around 6000 until I reached 55 miles Hr. Now The rmp jump to around 6000 rpm and drop to around 5500 rpm until I reach a little over 50 mph.
> I do like it better than the K Mod and do not plan on going back to
> K Mod. I have only put about 100 miles on scooter with the new rollers. Fifty miles around town and 50 on interstate.
> I will ride it a while and maybe shave a gram off each roller.
> I really like the way it runs and handles now. I did change tires to
> city grip and really like them over the OEM hoops.
>
>
>
>
> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "GeoB" <gab16@> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the warning.
> >
> > yer welcome.
> >
> > > One thing I was thinking about was swapping to the Big Ruckus weights (and the weight holder, so the ramps are all equal), which should result in a similar overall weight but more linear acceleration, right?
> >
> > How confident are you of the equal ramps and such? THIS sounds interesting! Thanks for posting it.
> >
> > Have you seen this done? Do the parts interchange? Shouldn't be too expensive.
> >
> > Has anyone of us ridden a BR? Does it accelerate differenty than the Reflex?
> >
> > Be great if we could just slap those parts in there and they fit and worked linearly.
> >
>

2.3.

Re: Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning!

Posted by: "Ed" dunkkizing@yahoo.com   dunkkizing

Thu May 13, 2010 2:29 pm (PDT)



I understand the pully ratio concept and how it works. I did change the belt and I supect that had an effect on top end. I have only riden it 100 miles and will need more time to get a better picture.
I am only stating what I noticed.

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "BruceK" <bruce@...> wrote:
>
> I have one comment - the ONLY way a VARIATOR can change the TOP speed is to have a DIFFERENT (LARGER) OUTER DIAMETER - and then it won't fir in the stock belt cover).
>
> Variators all run out of shifting range (i.e. belt forced to the outside diameter) well before the scooter reaches TOP SPEED - that is why you will observe that the engine RPM will gradually INCREASE as the Variator is maxed out (typically around 45 to 55 MPH) and can no longer "shift" the drive ratio.
>
> Changing the variator ramp profile, weights, and the rear pulley spring, can all change the shifting profile (power transfer function) - from the point the clutch engages until the variator maxes out with the belt forced to the O.D. - but that's the END of it's effect.
>
> The only way to get more top speed (for a given scooter / rider configuration) is to increase the engine power, or to decrease the final drive ratio (the gears in the "rear end" - an option available from Malossi). And the latter will REDUCE acceleration rate - and will only add top speed if the engine has sufficient power to take advantage or that drive ratio.
>
> If the top speed changed, it is either because the belt is new (wider), or the former belt was slipping.
>
>
> For what it's worth
>
> Bruce Koehler - the Koehlerizer
> Santa Cruz, CA
>
> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Ed" <dunkkizing@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello All
> > I just change roller ramp plate, rollers and belt on 2004 reflex.
> > I have six 21 gram rollers in a BR ramp plate.
> > This is my opinion with no facts to back it up. I will redo timed
> > runs with video of speedometer.
> > 1. top end speed increased about five mph.
> > 2. Not as much noise.
> > 3. RPM/speed ratio improved
> > 4. Not quite the take off as with K-Mod but better roll and go above
> > forty miles per hour.
> > 5. On take off the rmp would jump to around 7000 rpm and drop to around 6000 until I reached 55 miles Hr. Now The rmp jump to around 6000 rpm and drop to around 5500 rpm until I reach a little over 50 mph.
> > I do like it better than the K Mod and do not plan on going back to
> > K Mod. I have only put about 100 miles on scooter with the new rollers. Fifty miles around town and 50 on interstate.
> > I will ride it a while and maybe shave a gram off each roller.
> > I really like the way it runs and handles now. I did change tires to
> > city grip and really like them over the OEM hoops.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "GeoB" <gab16@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks for the warning.
> > >
> > > yer welcome.
> > >
> > > > One thing I was thinking about was swapping to the Big Ruckus weights (and the weight holder, so the ramps are all equal), which should result in a similar overall weight but more linear acceleration, right?
> > >
> > > How confident are you of the equal ramps and such? THIS sounds interesting! Thanks for posting it.
> > >
> > > Have you seen this done? Do the parts interchange? Shouldn't be too expensive.
> > >
> > > Has anyone of us ridden a BR? Does it accelerate differenty than the Reflex?
> > >
> > > Be great if we could just slap those parts in there and they fit and worked linearly.
> > >
> >
>

2.4.

Re: modded K-mod expectations - Warning!

Posted by: "GeoB" gab16@sbcglobal.net   negrekboshlinov

Thu May 13, 2010 4:46 pm (PDT)



> I just change roller ramp plate, rollers and belt on 2004 reflex.

I looked at the photo "Photo Albums > Clutch Assembly > IMG_0009" for a reminder and the clutch is built just the way I remembered. The two different ramps are built into the 'driving plate'. I expect the stamped steel weight retaining plate is the same between the two models.

Also, reading on the Ruckus site, in the description of the Ruckus, it says, "Honda V-Matic belt drive system provides sophisticated three-stage operation, matching the engine's strong low- and mid-range power to a wide range of operating conditions. Stage One delivers efficient, quiet power for around-town cruising; Stage Two provides increased power for moderate acceleration; and Stage Three provides maximum power for full acceleration and top speed".

I believe this is what they say about the Reflex tranny too.

I see that the Honda part number is the same between the Big Ruckus and the Reflex for the driving plate (which has the two different ramps in it), #22130-KFG-640.

So looking at the dearth of information I have at hand, I am concluding that the Ruckus tranny is the SAME as the Reflex. I hope somebody shows me I am wrong.

GeoB

3.1.

Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning!

Posted by: "BruceK" bruce@aplusservices.com   bruceakoehler

Thu May 13, 2010 11:58 am (PDT)



So - you are considering taking a variator designed (optimized) for off-road riding - and putting it on a street bike - with the desired end result being optimal street use? Hmmm....

Bruce

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "GeoB" <gab16@...> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the warning.
>
> yer welcome.
>
> > One thing I was thinking about was swapping to the Big Ruckus weights (and the weight holder, so the ramps are all equal), which should result in a similar overall weight but more linear acceleration, right?
>
> How confident are you of the equal ramps and such? THIS sounds interesting! Thanks for posting it.
>
> Have you seen this done? Do the parts interchange? Shouldn't be too expensive.
>
> Has anyone of us ridden a BR? Does it accelerate differenty than the Reflex?
>
> Be great if we could just slap those parts in there and they fit and worked linearly.
>

3.2.

Re: Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning!

Posted by: "Jonathan Vaughn" spotchicus@yahoo.com   spotchicus

Thu May 13, 2010 2:31 pm (PDT)



For some reason I didn't really think of the big ruckus as being built for off-roading, what with it having a 70+mph top speed and an awesome reclining seat (/jealous).  The more I think about it I'll probably just keep my stock variators in.  I need to keep as little stress on the engine as possible around town because I have a feeling I'm going to be taking it on at least a few long 60mph+ sustained runs, and I'm worried I'm going to wear the poor thing out. 

Jon

--- On Thu, 5/13/10, BruceK <bruce@aplusservices.com> wrote:

From: BruceK <bruce@aplusservices.com>
Subject: Honda Reflex Group Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning!
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 6:58 PM

 

So - you are considering taking a variator designed (optimized) for off-road riding - and putting it on a street bike - with the desired end result being optimal street use? Hmmm....

Bruce

--- In hondareflexowners@ yahoogroups. com, "GeoB" <gab16@...> wrote:

>

> > Thanks for the warning.

>

> yer welcome.

>

> > One thing I was thinking about was swapping to the Big Ruckus weights (and the weight holder, so the ramps are all equal), which should result in a similar overall weight but more linear acceleration, right?

>

> How confident are you of the equal ramps and such? THIS sounds interesting! Thanks for posting it.

>

> Have you seen this done? Do the parts interchange? Shouldn't be too expensive.

>

> Has anyone of us ridden a BR? Does it accelerate differenty than the Reflex?

>

> Be great if we could just slap those parts in there and they fit and worked linearly.

>

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3.3.

Re: Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning!

Posted by: "TubaTim" phreadbarnz@gmail.com   phreadbarnz

Thu May 13, 2010 3:46 pm (PDT)



I wouldn't worry too much about wearing the poor thing out. Make sure to keep your eye on the OIL level and Tire Pressures.

I've gone on more than a few long 60mph+ sustained runs with no adverse affects.

TravlinTim (who has a few hundred miles on his rear tire now) Hansen
phreadbarnz@gmail.com

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Vaughn <spotchicus@...> wrote:
>
> For some reason I didn't really think of the big ruckus as being built for off-roading, what with it having a 70+mph top speed and an awesome reclining seat (/jealous).  The more I think about it I'll probably just keep my stock variators in.  I need to keep as little stress on the engine as possible around town because I have a feeling I'm going to be taking it on at least a few long 60mph+ sustained runs, and I'm worried I'm going to wear the poor thing out. 
>
> Jon

3.4.

Re: Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning!

Posted by: "GeoB" gab16@sbcglobal.net   negrekboshlinov

Thu May 13, 2010 4:52 pm (PDT)



> So - you are considering taking a variator designed (optimized) for off-road riding - and putting it on a street bike - with the desired end result being optimal street use? Hmmm....

Bruce, I know I can always count on you. Did you notice I was in the information-gathering phase?

If the Ruckus truly was optimized for off-road, then I would answer "yes" to your question.

My research has assured me though that the Ruckus is just a another purdy face. No optimization here. Same variator.

GeoB

3.5.

Re: Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning!

Posted by: "GeoB" gab16@sbcglobal.net   negrekboshlinov

Thu May 13, 2010 5:34 pm (PDT)



> and I'm worried I'm going to wear the poor thing out.

Jon, Jon, Jon! You bought a Honda in the first place so you wouldn't have to worry about that. Now go play and don't worry.

I have seen huge miles on Hondas. Treat it right and I expect you will be most of the way toward your second 100,000 miles before you have any real concerns, if then. you guys remember the delivery Reflex in San Francisco? Wasn't that 120,000 miles?

Honda makes bikes well. I saw an old S90 with 67,000 miles on it, on the ORIGINAL chain! Which was out of ignorance. I cheerfully shared with the old guy what would happen if his chain broke (have been there myself). Hint: It involves a broken case.

Honda admits that their CX500 is likely to go 200,000 without major repairs or overhaul. This in the face of overwhelming documented cases of people getting 350,000 miles from them.

I don't think any of the big V4s or flat 4's have gone far enough to wear them out yet (I may be exagerating here, I don't follow the big bike stuff much but I read that you can't seem to wear them out).

3.6.

Re: Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning!

Posted by: "Joe Pal" pal996@lycos.com   donedeal999

Thu May 13, 2010 5:55 pm (PDT)



I read that the Big Ruckus has 6 equal length ramps all with 21 gm weights.

From: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of GeoB
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 4:51 PM
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Honda Reflex Group Re: Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod
expectations - Warning!


> So - you are considering taking a variator designed (optimized) for
off-road riding - and putting it on a street bike - with the desired end
result being optimal street use? Hmmm....

Bruce, I know I can always count on you. Did you notice I was in the
information-gathering phase?

If the Ruckus truly was optimized for off-road, then I would answer "yes" to
your question.

My research has assured me though that the Ruckus is just a another purdy
face. No optimization here. Same variator.

GeoB

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3.7.

Re: Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning!

Posted by: "rvtips" rvtips@yahoo.com   rvtips

Thu May 13, 2010 11:11 pm (PDT)



And what do you think?
I have about 3-4 hundred on my car tire and if I did not know that I had put it on I don't think I would know the difference.
Phil

>
> TravlinTim (who has a few hundred miles on his rear tire now) Hansen
> phreadbarnz@...
>

3.8.

Re: Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning!

Posted by: "Jonathan Vaughn" spotchicus@yahoo.com   spotchicus

Fri May 14, 2010 2:01 am (PDT)



Ha, yeah I suppose I shouldn't be so worried.  I'm just not used to being comfortable with revving so close to redline (6000rpm or higher) for long periods of time!   I'm sure you're right though.

Jon

--- On Fri, 5/14/10, GeoB <gab16@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: GeoB <gab16@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Honda Reflex Group Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning!
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 12:34 AM

 

> and I'm worried I'm going to wear the poor thing out.

Jon, Jon, Jon! You bought a Honda in the first place so you wouldn't have to worry about that. Now go play and don't worry.

I have seen huge miles on Hondas. Treat it right and I expect you will be most of the way toward your second 100,000 miles before you have any real concerns, if then. you guys remember the delivery Reflex in San Francisco? Wasn't that 120,000 miles?

Honda makes bikes well. I saw an old S90 with 67,000 miles on it, on the ORIGINAL chain! Which was out of ignorance. I cheerfully shared with the old guy what would happen if his chain broke (have been there myself). Hint: It involves a broken case.

Honda admits that their CX500 is likely to go 200,000 without major repairs or overhaul. This in the face of overwhelming documented cases of people getting 350,000 miles from them.

I don't think any of the big V4s or flat 4's have gone far enough to wear them out yet (I may be exagerating here, I don't follow the big bike stuff much but I read that you can't seem to wear them out).

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3.9.

Re: Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod expectations - Warning!

Posted by: "Joe Barnhart" flaboye@gmail.com   jtbgnsv

Fri May 14, 2010 3:16 am (PDT)



I didn't like that little aspect myself. In fact one of my first posts here
was asking what others were running on rpms at say 65-70 speedo indicated.
I was also assured it would be ok and to ride it like I stole it.

47,000 now, and I've hit the florida turnpike at wildwood and stopped when I
got to Miami many times, my friend also takes these rides once a month and
sometimes more.

We've been to New Orleans, Atlanta and other very long rides.

It can ride all day long at 65, that's my sweet spot, which is about 6800
rpms. You won't hurt it.

Your butt may be a bit sore though !

Be sure to keep an eye on your fluids.

Joe

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Jonathan Vaughn <spotchicus@yahoo.com>wrote:

>
>
> Ha, yeah I suppose I shouldn't be so worried. I'm just not used to being
> comfortable with revving so close to redline (6000rpm or higher) for long
> periods of time! I'm sure you're right though.
>
> Jon
>
> --- On Fri, 5/14/10, GeoB <gab16@sbcglobal.net <gab16%40sbcglobal.net>>
> wrote:
>
> From: GeoB <gab16@sbcglobal.net <gab16%40sbcglobal.net>>
> Subject: Re: Honda Reflex Group Big Rukus Variator - was:modded K-mod
> expectations - Warning!
> To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com<hondareflexowners%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 12:34 AM
>
>
>
> > and I'm worried I'm going to wear the poor thing out.
>
> Jon, Jon, Jon! You bought a Honda in the first place so you wouldn't have
> to worry about that. Now go play and don't worry.
>
> I have seen huge miles on Hondas. Treat it right and I expect you will be
> most of the way toward your second 100,000 miles before you have any real
> concerns, if then. you guys remember the delivery Reflex in San Francisco?
> Wasn't that 120,000 miles?
>
> Honda makes bikes well. I saw an old S90 with 67,000 miles on it, on the
> ORIGINAL chain! Which was out of ignorance. I cheerfully shared with the old
> guy what would happen if his chain broke (have been there myself). Hint: It
> involves a broken case.
>
> Honda admits that their CX500 is likely to go 200,000 without major repairs
> or overhaul. This in the face of overwhelming documented cases of people
> getting 350,000 miles from them.
>
> I don't think any of the big V4s or flat 4's have gone far enough to wear
> them out yet (I may be exagerating here, I don't follow the big bike stuff
> much but I read that you can't seem to wear them out).
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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4a.

Re: Digest Number 4827

Posted by: "Richard Tidyman" rstidyman@yahoo.com   rstidyman

Thu May 13, 2010 12:27 pm (PDT)



I am going to make a "Reflex" t-shirt but I want a really good picture, maybe something in action, like a scooter leaning over in a turn.  Anybody have anything?  All I find online are pictures of scooters sitting still.

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4b.

Photo

Posted by: "BruceK" bruce@aplusservices.com   bruceakoehler

Thu May 13, 2010 12:54 pm (PDT)



Look in the PHOTOS section - especially in the:
00 - Group Homepage Finalists

folder

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hondareflexowners/photos/album/431734927/pic/list

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard Tidyman <rstidyman@...> wrote:
>
> I am going to make a "Reflex" t-shirt but I want a really good picture, maybe something in action, like a scooter leaning over in a turn.  Anybody have anything?  All I find online are pictures of scooters sitting still.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

5.

Fwd: Honda Reflex Group Re: Tire pressure indicators - from the S/Wi

Posted by: "wingit3611@aol.com" wingit3611@aol.com   wingit3611

Thu May 13, 2010 1:26 pm (PDT)



I could be flirting with disaster but I have these caps on 3 bikes. 38's in
the back& 36's in the fronts. Been on well over a year now. they must be
tight but not too tight to crack the plastic. I used soap water to make
sure they didn't leak. I rechecked one of the rears after the winter and found
that the valve stem didn't pop up & seal when I took the cap off (make
sure you have air source handy when you take one off). fiddleed with it a
little and it popped up ok. Love the comfort of being able to check for the
green so I know the tire has good air pressure.

Rick in KY
. __l__
'---o--(_)--o---'

" " "
I am a red neck: I remove my cap and place my hand over my heart when they
play the National Anthem

____________________________________
From: techrat@obsolyte.com
Reply-to: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 5/11/2010 2:12:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: Honda Reflex Group Re: Tire pressure indicators - from the S/Wing
forum

--- In _hondareflexowners@hondareflexohon_
(mailto:hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com) , "freddhardeng" <imtlog@...> wrote:
>
> Needless to say, those damn pressure indicators have been removed from
both the Reflex and S/Wing and a pressure gauge now hangs around the
throttles that has to be removed to ride. Using the 'remove before flight'
checklist idea.
>

-------------

#1) Don't trust your life to anything sold at Walmart. Cheap chinese-made
crap. If you're going to do that, sell me your Reflex, and you can buy the
Chinese-made knock-off with brakes that fail after 1000 miles.

#2) I don't know if it's this group or another motorcycle group I'm on,
but I've heard this story before -- turns out those "guages" that replace the
valve-stem cover are made out of 100% pure, genuine garbage, and sooner or
later the internals "pop out" from the air pressure, and there goes all
your air... leaving you with a complete flat.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

6a.

Re: Reflex clear tail lens

Posted by: "steve121168" steve121168@yahoo.com   steve121168

Thu May 13, 2010 5:53 pm (PDT)



I tried Ebay for some body parts too, but couldn't find exactly the right stuff. I ended up buying new parts from MrCycle.com -- very good diagrams, decent prices, good packaging and delivery.

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "mickb45" <mickb45@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know where to find a good used clear tail lens for a '02 Reflex since mine is cracked? Checked Ebay but none listed....thanks
>

7a.

Re: Scooter Road Rash

Posted by: "steve121168" steve121168@yahoo.com   steve121168

Thu May 13, 2010 6:39 pm (PDT)



I just replaced my front cover, inner cover, and both signal covers. The signal covers are actually fairly easy to replace, and you don't have to take anything else off to get there (but you have to reach up and under the front cover). They cost about $15 each (of course, you have to order the left separate from the right since they are different). There's only one screw that holds the cover on, plus two tabs. You'll probably need a short screwdriver in order to get into that tight space. Take off the screw, squeeze the tabs, and pop the cover off. Align tabs on new cover, pop on, then replace screw and you're done.

I'm assuming you didn't damage the lens portion (the housing inside the cover that holds the bulb and other stuff), just the cover . . .

If you go to www.MyCycles.com, they have a great diagram -- click on "Honda scooter parts", click on your model year, and click on "turn signal". The diagram is accurate. Good luck!

Steve (red 2007 Reflex Sport)

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "LincolnF" <lfisher100@...> wrote:
>
> My scooter now has some road rash due to my goofing around on a gravel road in the neighborhood. At 48 years old, you'd think that I would know better....Slingin' gravel and puttin' a ton of dust in the air, then wiping out at about maybe 20mph. Ouch!
>
> Bottom line is the front left signal cover has deep gouges and is broken off.
> Does anyone out there know how expensive this is to get new from Honda?
>
> Any advice on touching it up with touch-up paint and glueing it on?
>
> Does anyone know how it WAS attached? It looks like maybe there used to be a threaded insert in the boss on the inside but the fairing part it attaches to seems to be broken too and I have not found any broken pieces yet. Otherwise I might try to glue them back together.
>
> Any advice from the group would be appreciated! (I don't need any about goofing around on gravel, that I have already taken to heart!) Live & Learn!
>
> Thanks,
>
> LF '03 yellow Reflex, about 5500 miles on her now CT, USA
>

7b.

Re: Scooter Road Rash

Posted by: "Joe Pal" pal996@lycos.com   donedeal999

Thu May 13, 2010 8:40 pm (PDT)



When I clicked on your link "www.MyCycles.com" I get a site that discusses
menstruation.


From: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of steve121168
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 6:39 PM
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Honda Reflex Group Re: Scooter Road Rash


I just replaced my front cover, inner cover, and both signal covers. The
signal covers are actually fairly easy to replace, and you don't have to
take anything else off to get there (but you have to reach up and under the
front cover). They cost about $15 each (of course, you have to order the
left separate from the right since they are different). There's only one
screw that holds the cover on, plus two tabs. You'll probably need a short
screwdriver in order to get into that tight space. Take off the screw,
squeeze the tabs, and pop the cover off. Align tabs on new cover, pop on,
then replace screw and you're done.

I'm assuming you didn't damage the lens portion (the housing inside the
cover that holds the bulb and other stuff), just the cover . . .

If you go to www.MyCycles.com, they have a great diagram -- click on "Honda
scooter parts", click on your model year, and click on "turn signal". The
diagram is accurate. Good luck!

Steve (red 2007 Reflex Sport)

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "LincolnF" <lfisher100@...> wrote:
>
> My scooter now has some road rash due to my goofing around on a gravel
road in the neighborhood. At 48 years old, you'd think that I would know
better....Slingin' gravel and puttin' a ton of dust in the air, then wiping
out at about maybe 20mph. Ouch!
>
> Bottom line is the front left signal cover has deep gouges and is broken
off.
> Does anyone out there know how expensive this is to get new from Honda?
>
> Any advice on touching it up with touch-up paint and glueing it on?
>
> Does anyone know how it WAS attached? It looks like maybe there used to be
a threaded insert in the boss on the inside but the fairing part it attaches
to seems to be broken too and I have not found any broken pieces yet.
Otherwise I might try to glue them back together.
>
> Any advice from the group would be appreciated! (I don't need any about
goofing around on gravel, that I have already taken to heart!) Live & Learn!
>
> Thanks,
>
> LF '03 yellow Reflex, about 5500 miles on her now CT, USA
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

7c.

Re: Scooter Road Rash

Posted by: "Michael" mbr987@comcast.net   bandito_two

Thu May 13, 2010 9:20 pm (PDT)



--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Pal" <pal996@...> wrote:
>
> When I clicked on your link "www.MyCycles.com" I get a site that
> discusses menstruation.
>
/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /
Dang... That would have been great for an April Fools Day prank. Yup,
it leads to a womens fertility site. Sorry ladies, but I still had to
laugh about it.

Mike B.

(Rochester Hills Michigan Double Dark Side Rider)
(2007 Honda NSS250S Reflex Sport "Scarlet")
(2006 Honda FSC600A Silverwing "Jester")

**** While knowledge has power, blah, blah, blah.
Use it wisely. **** (I wish I knew more)uh... usefull stuff that is.

7d.

Re: Scooter Road Rash

Posted by: "jim borton" gondola1545@yahoo.com   gondola1545

Thu May 13, 2010 9:28 pm (PDT)



same as me...  but if you type in reflex in the search it'll go there...
the other stuff is just paying ads....

________________________________
From: Michael <mbr987@comcast.net>
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 9:20:21 PM
Subject: Honda Reflex Group Re: Scooter Road Rash

 
--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Pal" <pal996@...> wrote:
>
> When I clicked on your link "www.MyCycles.com" I get a site that
> discusses menstruation.
>
/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /
Dang... That would have been great for an April Fools Day prank. Yup,
it leads to a womens fertility site. Sorry ladies, but I still had to
laugh about it.

Mike B.

(Rochester Hills Michigan Double Dark Side Rider)
(2007 Honda NSS250S Reflex Sport "Scarlet")
(2006 Honda FSC600A Silverwing "Jester")

**** While knowledge has power, blah, blah, blah.
Use it wisely. **** (I wish I knew more)uh... usefull stuff that is.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

7e.

Re: Scooter Road Rash

Posted by: "steve121168" steve121168@yahoo.com   steve121168

Fri May 14, 2010 4:18 am (PDT)



Oooops -- sorry guys. I meant to type in www.MrCycles.com. There are other websites that you can buy Reflex parts on too -- I just found this site had the best prices I could find for new parts.

Steve (red 2007 Reflex Sport with new front end)

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, jim borton <gondola1545@...> wrote:
>
> same as me...  but if you type in reflex in the search it'll go there...
> the other stuff is just paying ads....
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Michael <mbr987@...>
> To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 9:20:21 PM
> Subject: Honda Reflex Group Re: Scooter Road Rash
>
>  
> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Pal" <pal996@> wrote:
> >
> > When I clicked on your link "www.MyCycles.com" I get a site that
> > discusses menstruation.
> >
> / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /
> Dang... That would have been great for an April Fools Day prank. Yup,
> it leads to a womens fertility site. Sorry ladies, but I still had to
> laugh about it.
>
> Mike B.
>
> (Rochester Hills Michigan Double Dark Side Rider)
> (2007 Honda NSS250S Reflex Sport "Scarlet")
> (2006 Honda FSC600A Silverwing "Jester")
>
> **** While knowledge has power, blah, blah, blah.
> Use it wisely. **** (I wish I knew more)uh... usefull stuff that is.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

8.

New member/owner

Posted by: "icletl" icletl@yahoo.com   icletl

Thu May 13, 2010 9:29 pm (PDT)



So, back in the day, I was a BMW tech (College job that got out of control and lasted 10 years). At one point, I had major knee surgery and commuted on a seriously beat up Elite 250--100 miles a day! I recently caught the nostalgia bug and bought another.....

At the same time, my best friend bought "his wife" a Reflex......and loved it so much he bought one for himself. I rode it home for him........big mistake, Reflex lust was on!

I just got a 2002 ABS. It's cosmetically challenged, but I'm not that concerned. What it DOES do is out Elite the ol' Elite. Honda should have done an ad campaign along the lines of "Honda Reflex--it's all that you really need!" Heavens.......a 250 that will haul my 300lbs at 80 and give back 75MPG? What a machine!

I have had a lot of bikes and done a lot of miles on two wheels. NEVER have I owned one that was just so much plain FUN! I may buy another.....just to keep as a backup......like it is really needed......I just want another! I'd ride this thing across country, just for fun.

Great site guys. Keep it up......I gotta go run off a little more Bridgestone Hoop! :)

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