Wednesday, May 5, 2010

Honda Reflex Group Digest Number 4817

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1a.

Re: I did it. An '05 in the garage!! So how do I ride it?

Posted by: "John D" dc2daylight@yahoo.com   dc2daylight

Tue May 4, 2010 7:27 am (PDT)



I think Joe's answer was quite helpful considering the circumstances. He took it literally that you hadn't ridden any two-wheelers before and if you haven't ridden a bicycle, you shouldn't get anywhere near the drivers seat of a scooter or motorcycle.

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From: jaluvri <jaluvri@yahoo.com>
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 6:40:05 PM
Subject: Re: Honda Reflex Group I did it. An '05 in the garage!! So how do I ride it?

Not the most helpful answer of the group (and there were several very kind individuals out there) but by far the funniest! Yeah...I can ride a bike. (The training wheels are coming off soon.)

--- In hondareflexowners@ yahoogroups. com, "Joe Pal" <pal996@...> wrote:
>
> Maybe I am taking your statement "never piloted a 2 wheeled vehicle" too
> literally but maybe you should learn to ride a bicycle first.
>
> From: hondareflexowners@ yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:hondareflexowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jaluvri
> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:03 PM
> To: hondareflexowners@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Honda Reflex Group I did it. An '05 in the garage!! So how do I
> ride it?
>
>
> I bought an '05 Reflex and I'm so excited to hop on and twist the throttle!
> The only prob is that I'm a top heavy, 37 yr old that has never piloted a 2
> wheeled vehicle. I'm close to Birmingham Al and would like some tips on
> safety classes or riding instructions. I'm really not trying to be a baby
> but I wanna have fun AND see my kids grow up. Any suggestions. PS mine has
> 3k miles on it. What is the longivity of these fellas? THANKS FOR YOUR
> TIME!!!
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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2a.

"New Gates Scooter Drive Belts Honda Reflex 250 PL30808"

Posted by: "Bruce" bremus@ymail.com   bremus@ymail.com

Tue May 4, 2010 9:29 am (PDT)



I saw this listing on Ebay motors, Reflex 250 Gates drive belt PL30808.
Does anyone know if this is a viable substitue for the OEM?
It sounds "too good to be true", but some Gates belt do work on other
scoots admirably.

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2b.

Re: "New Gates Scooter Drive Belts Honda Reflex 250 PL30808"

Posted by: "Joe Pal" pal996@lycos.com   donedeal999

Tue May 4, 2010 9:38 am (PDT)



Bruce, Found a site that lists the size: Belts size - 906x22x30

How does this size compare with the OEM?

As little as $15.28 on Amazon. Order a couple and get free shipping.

http://www.scooterpartsplace.com/gates-premium-powerlink-kevlar-belt-honda-r
eflex-cn-250.aspx


From: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:28 AM
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Honda Reflex Group "New Gates Scooter Drive Belts Honda Reflex 250
PL30808"


I saw this listing on Ebay motors, Reflex 250 Gates drive belt PL30808.
Does anyone know if this is a viable substitue for the OEM?
It sounds "too good to be true", but some Gates belt do work on other
scoots admirably.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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2c.

Re: "New Gates Scooter Drive Belts Honda Reflex 250 PL30808"

Posted by: "BruceK" bruce@aplusservices.com   bruceakoehler

Tue May 4, 2010 9:49 am (PDT)



Dunno... BUT a "CN-250" is a HELIX, not a Reflex, and they DO NOT use the same belt.

The "22" width is correct (stated in the service manual), but I don't know the other specs.

Does anyone have a NEW STOCK belt - if so, can you please CAREFULLY measure it for us?

Bruce

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Pal" <pal996@...> wrote:
>
> Bruce, Found a site that lists the size: Belts size - 906x22x30
>
> How does this size compare with the OEM?
>
> As little as $15.28 on Amazon. Order a couple and get free shipping.
>
> http://www.scooterpartsplace.com/gates-premium-powerlink-kevlar-belt-honda-r
> eflex-cn-250.aspx
>
>
> From: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:28 AM
> To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Honda Reflex Group "New Gates Scooter Drive Belts Honda Reflex 250
> PL30808"
>
>
> I saw this listing on Ebay motors, Reflex 250 Gates drive belt PL30808.
> Does anyone know if this is a viable substitue for the OEM?
> It sounds "too good to be true", but some Gates belt do work on other
> scoots admirably.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: "New Gates Scooter Drive Belts Honda Reflex 250 PL30808"

Posted by: "BruceK" bruce@aplusservices.com   bruceakoehler

Tue May 4, 2010 10:14 am (PDT)



I checked on the Gates Rubber Co. web site and they DO make a replacement belt for the Reflex:

http://tinyurl.com/2df4q5f
(I placed this link in the LINKS section)

The Honda part # crosses to the Gates part # PL30808 which THEY state is for the Reflex - so it should be OK. Gates makes quality stuff.

Many aftermarket belts have INFERIOR INTERNAL STRUCTURE and fail quickly (well documented in this group), and some have a narrower width. I doubt that this is true with a Gates product.

Beware of buying OLD STOCK - these rubber products have a useful life of about 6 years from date of manufacture - the "sale" may be old stock.

Thanks for the info!

Bruce

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce" <bremus@...> wrote:
>
> I saw this listing on Ebay motors, Reflex 250 Gates drive belt PL30808.
> Does anyone know if this is a viable substitue for the OEM?
> It sounds "too good to be true", but some Gates belt do work on other
> scoots admirably.
>

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2e.

Re: "New Gates Scooter Drive Belts Honda Reflex 250 PL30808"

Posted by: "BruceK" bruce@aplusservices.com   bruceakoehler

Tue May 4, 2010 11:33 am (PDT)



After reading some posts in a Big Rukus group (which is a Reflex in wolf's clothing - same identical engine/drivetrain, I'm sorry to say since it is sold as a dual-sport off-road capable), it turns out that the Gates belt works, but is NOT IDENTICAL! - it is a bit narrower and shorter. Both off-the-line and top speed suffered.

The consensus there seemed to be that the stock Honda belt was still the best choice.

For what it's worth

Bruce Koehler - the Koehlerizer
Santa Cruz, CA

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "BruceK" <bruce@...> wrote:
>
> I checked on the Gates Rubber Co. web site and they DO make a replacement belt for the Reflex:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2df4q5f
> (I placed this link in the LINKS section)
>
> The Honda part # crosses to the Gates part # PL30808 which THEY state is for the Reflex - so it should be OK. Gates makes quality stuff.
>
> Many aftermarket belts have INFERIOR INTERNAL STRUCTURE and fail quickly (well documented in this group), and some have a narrower width. I doubt that this is true with a Gates product.
>
> Beware of buying OLD STOCK - these rubber products have a useful life of about 6 years from date of manufacture - the "sale" may be old stock.
>
> Thanks for the info!
>
> Bruce
>
>
> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce" <bremus@> wrote:
> >
> > I saw this listing on Ebay motors, Reflex 250 Gates drive belt PL30808.
> > Does anyone know if this is a viable substitue for the OEM?
> > It sounds "too good to be true", but some Gates belt do work on other
> > scoots admirably.
> >
>

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2f.

Re: "New Gates Scooter Drive Belts Honda Reflex 250 PL30808"

Posted by: "Joe Pal" pal996@lycos.com   donedeal999

Tue May 4, 2010 11:40 am (PDT)



On the Gates site:
http://www.gates.com/part_locator/reverselookup.cfm?requesttimeout=500 it
shows that the PL30808 fits the Reflex.



From: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of BruceK
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:48 AM
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Honda Reflex Group "New Gates Scooter Drive Belts Honda Reflex
250 PL30808"


Dunno... BUT a "CN-250" is a HELIX, not a Reflex, and they DO NOT use the
same belt.

The "22" width is correct (stated in the service manual), but I don't know
the other specs.

Does anyone have a NEW STOCK belt - if so, can you please CAREFULLY measure
it for us?

Bruce

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:hondareflexowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "Joe Pal" <pal996@...> wrote:
>
> Bruce, Found a site that lists the size: Belts size - 906x22x30
>
> How does this size compare with the OEM?
>
> As little as $15.28 on Amazon. Order a couple and get free shipping.
>
>
http://www.scooterpartsplace.com/gates-premium-powerlink-kevlar-belt-honda-r
> eflex-cn-250.aspx
>
>
> From: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:hondareflexowners%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:hondareflexowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Bruce
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:28 AM
> To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:hondareflexowners%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Honda Reflex Group "New Gates Scooter Drive Belts Honda Reflex
250
> PL30808"
>
>
> I saw this listing on Ebay motors, Reflex 250 Gates drive belt PL30808.
> Does anyone know if this is a viable substitue for the OEM?
> It sounds "too good to be true", but some Gates belt do work on other
> scoots admirably.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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2g.

Re: "New Gates Scooter Drive Belts Honda Reflex 250 PL30808"

Posted by: "Joe Barnhart" flaboye@gmail.com   jtbgnsv

Tue May 4, 2010 4:22 pm (PDT)



About to put my 4th belt in my '01, and have never had a failure using OEM
replacements. Even the OEM which I put close to 13k on is still
structurally sound, but narrowed. I change them at 10k now, as the extra
3,000 or so divided by the cost of the belt isn't worth a failure to me.

I know they are costly, but in my opinion, worth it. I sat on a big rukus
at the dealer on one of my tire trips, didn't ride it though. They seem to
be even rarer than the reflex. As someone else pointed out, Tony I believe,
dealers don't see reflex's or the ruckus very often, they just never give
any problems generally. This is what they told me. They were also
astonished at the amount of miles on my odometer, saying "only a honda".

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:33 PM, BruceK <bruce@aplusservices.com> wrote:

>
>
> After reading some posts in a Big Rukus group (which is a Reflex in wolf's
> clothing - same identical engine/drivetrain, I'm sorry to say since it is
> sold as a dual-sport off-road capable), it turns out that the Gates belt
> works, but is NOT IDENTICAL! - it is a bit narrower and shorter. Both
> off-the-line and top speed suffered.
>
> The consensus there seemed to be that the stock Honda belt was still the
> best choice.
>
> For what it's worth
>
> Bruce Koehler - the Koehlerizer
> Santa Cruz, CA
>
>
> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com<hondareflexowners%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "BruceK" <bruce@...> wrote:
> >
> > I checked on the Gates Rubber Co. web site and they DO make a replacement
> belt for the Reflex:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/2df4q5f
> > (I placed this link in the LINKS section)
> >
> > The Honda part # crosses to the Gates part # PL30808 which THEY state is
> for the Reflex - so it should be OK. Gates makes quality stuff.
> >
> > Many aftermarket belts have INFERIOR INTERNAL STRUCTURE and fail quickly
> (well documented in this group), and some have a narrower width. I doubt
> that this is true with a Gates product.
> >
> > Beware of buying OLD STOCK - these rubber products have a useful life of
> about 6 years from date of manufacture - the "sale" may be old stock.
> >
> > Thanks for the info!
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> >
> > --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com<hondareflexowners%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Bruce" <bremus@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I saw this listing on Ebay motors, Reflex 250 Gates drive belt PL30808.
> > > Does anyone know if this is a viable substitue for the OEM?
> > > It sounds "too good to be true", but some Gates belt do work on other
> > > scoots admirably.
> > >
> >
>
>
>

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Re: "New Gates Scooter Drive Belts Honda Reflex 250 PL30808"

Posted by: "Ed" dunkkizing@yahoo.com   dunkkizing

Tue May 4, 2010 5:20 pm (PDT)



Hello All
Just received today a belt from BikeBandit with honda part# 23100-KFGA-0030

Outside circumference measured with seamiest tape 37 5/8 inches 924 mm
Width measured with micrometer .94 inches 3.46 mm
Height measured with micrometer .431 inches 10.95 mm
I will stay with the OEM belt.
ed

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "BruceK" <bruce@...> wrote:
>
> Dunno... BUT a "CN-250" is a HELIX, not a Reflex, and they DO NOT use the same belt.
>
> The "22" width is correct (stated in the service manual), but I don't know the other specs.
>
> Does anyone have a NEW STOCK belt - if so, can you please CAREFULLY measure it for us?
>
>
> Bruce
>
>
> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Pal" <pal996@> wrote:
> >
> > Bruce, Found a site that lists the size: Belts size - 906x22x30
> >
> > How does this size compare with the OEM?
> >
> > As little as $15.28 on Amazon. Order a couple and get free shipping.
> >
> > http://www.scooterpartsplace.com/gates-premium-powerlink-kevlar-belt-honda-r
> > eflex-cn-250.aspx
> >
> >
> > From: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:28 AM
> > To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Honda Reflex Group "New Gates Scooter Drive Belts Honda Reflex 250
> > PL30808"
> >
> >
> > I saw this listing on Ebay motors, Reflex 250 Gates drive belt PL30808.
> > Does anyone know if this is a viable substitue for the OEM?
> > It sounds "too good to be true", but some Gates belt do work on other
> > scoots admirably.
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

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Re: "New Gates Scooter Drive Belts Honda Reflex 250 PL30808"

Posted by: "Ed" dunkkizing@yahoo.com   dunkkizing

Tue May 4, 2010 7:37 pm (PDT)





--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Ed" <dunkkizing@...> wrote:
>Corrected width.
> Hello All
> Just received today a belt from BikeBandit with honda part# 23100-KFGA-0030
>
> Outside circumference measured with seamiest tape 37 5/8 inches 924 mm
> Width measured with micrometer .94 inches 23.46 mm
> Height measured with micrometer .431 inches 10.95 mm
> I will stay with the OEM belt.
> ed
>
> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "BruceK" <bruce@> wrote:
> >
> > Dunno... BUT a "CN-250" is a HELIX, not a Reflex, and they DO NOT use the same belt.
> >
> > The "22" width is correct (stated in the service manual), but I don't know the other specs.
> >
> > Does anyone have a NEW STOCK belt - if so, can you please CAREFULLY measure it for us?
> >
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> >
> > --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Pal" <pal996@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Bruce, Found a site that lists the size: Belts size - 906x22x30
> > >
> > > How does this size compare with the OEM?
> > >
> > > As little as $15.28 on Amazon. Order a couple and get free shipping.
> > >
> > > http://www.scooterpartsplace.com/gates-premium-powerlink-kevlar-belt-honda-r
> > > eflex-cn-250.aspx
> > >
> > >
> > > From: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:28 AM
> > > To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Honda Reflex Group "New Gates Scooter Drive Belts Honda Reflex 250
> > > PL30808"
> > >
> > >
> > > I saw this listing on Ebay motors, Reflex 250 Gates drive belt PL30808.
> > > Does anyone know if this is a viable substitue for the OEM?
> > > It sounds "too good to be true", but some Gates belt do work on other
> > > scoots admirably.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

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3a.

Re: An '05 in the garage!! So how do I ride it?

Posted by: "BruceK" bruce@aplusservices.com   bruceakoehler

Tue May 4, 2010 9:43 am (PDT)



One of the best and wisest posts I have read in our group!

Well said!

I really like this part:
"I learned that being self-taught meant I had a fool for an instructor"

So applicable to many areas in life!

Thanks for your valuable contribution.

Bruce Koehler
Group Owner

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "jhcaudill" <jnscaudills@...> wrote:
>
> Like most kids of the 50's, I learned everything by trial & error. Along the way, I lost some skin, burned myself a few times, hit my head a bunch, and accu,ulated a lot of bruises and scars.
>
> When I was in my 20's, I wanted to learn to fly airplanes; it was then that I learned about professionalism and that many others have already figured out how to do "dangerous" stuff without getting hurt. There is no point in "re-discovering" what killed people back in the early days of aviation.
>
> Similarly, when I wanted to learn to scuba dive, I took the appropriate classes and gained experience in controlled settings with adequate supervision.
>
> Although I had been riding powered two wheelers for years, and even had passed the riding test in Connecticut, when I got my Goldwing I decided to start my professional education in riding motorcycles. During the basic riding course (given for free in Ohio), I learned that being self-taught meant I had a fool for an instructor. They will teach you the proper way to ride and how to "minimize" your risk. They will also tell you how most riders get in trouble and teach you the proper techniques to handle those very situations.
>
> Take the course on their bikes and learn their techniques. Later, take the advanced riding course on your own bike. I did the advanced course on my Goldwing while attending a Goldwing Rally. I think today, you can take the advanced course on a Goldwing with your ridng partner on the back! You might as well practice how you ride.
>
> The riding courses are much more than "how to ride", they teach the strategy of how to ride safely.
>
> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Pal" <pal996@> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe I am taking your statement "never piloted a 2 wheeled vehicle" too
> > literally but maybe you should learn to ride a bicycle first.
> >
> >
>

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Re: An '05 in the garage!! So how do I ride it?

Posted by: "Mike" Ursamajor@ceoexpress.com   ursamajor35235

Tue May 4, 2010 7:02 pm (PDT)



I'm in Birmingham if I can help..... Also read this site from front to back: http://www.msgroup.org Great stuff here.

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "BruceK" <bruce@...> wrote:
>
> One of the best and wisest posts I have read in our group!
>
> Well said!
>
> I really like this part:
> "I learned that being self-taught meant I had a fool for an instructor"
>
> So applicable to many areas in life!
>
> Thanks for your valuable contribution.
>
> Bruce Koehler
> Group Owner
>
> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "jhcaudill" <jnscaudills@> wrote:
> >
> > Like most kids of the 50's, I learned everything by trial & error. Along the way, I lost some skin, burned myself a few times, hit my head a bunch, and accu,ulated a lot of bruises and scars.
> >
> > When I was in my 20's, I wanted to learn to fly airplanes; it was then that I learned about professionalism and that many others have already figured out how to do "dangerous" stuff without getting hurt. There is no point in "re-discovering" what killed people back in the early days of aviation.
> >
> > Similarly, when I wanted to learn to scuba dive, I took the appropriate classes and gained experience in controlled settings with adequate supervision.
> >
> > Although I had been riding powered two wheelers for years, and even had passed the riding test in Connecticut, when I got my Goldwing I decided to start my professional education in riding motorcycles. During the basic riding course (given for free in Ohio), I learned that being self-taught meant I had a fool for an instructor. They will teach you the proper way to ride and how to "minimize" your risk. They will also tell you how most riders get in trouble and teach you the proper techniques to handle those very situations.
> >
> > Take the course on their bikes and learn their techniques. Later, take the advanced riding course on your own bike. I did the advanced course on my Goldwing while attending a Goldwing Rally. I think today, you can take the advanced course on a Goldwing with your ridng partner on the back! You might as well practice how you ride.
> >
> > The riding courses are much more than "how to ride", they teach the strategy of how to ride safely.
> >
> > --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Pal" <pal996@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe I am taking your statement "never piloted a 2 wheeled vehicle" too
> > > literally but maybe you should learn to ride a bicycle first.
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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4a.

Re: {Disarmed} Re: Honda Reflex Group Re: Hard bags

Posted by: "jim borton" gondola1545@yahoo.com   gondola1545

Tue May 4, 2010 10:08 am (PDT)



Hi George...
I sent in a memo and talked to my credit card company...  They said they could do nothing...  
Jim

________________________________
From: George Giftos <gcgiftos@utmi.net>
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 4:06:49 AM
Subject: {Disarmed} Re: Honda Reflex Group Re: Hard bags

Jim,

Did you call your credit card provider and explain the situation to them? Did you tell them that the supplier kept saying it was backordered and you never did receive the merchandise?

George

On May 3, 2010, at 7:58 PM, jim borton wrote:

> What are my options.... I paid months ago....  Don't see why they cant refund my money on the credit card....
>
> ________________________________
> From: Catfish <CatfishRacing@GMail.com>
> To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 4:54:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Honda Reflex Group Re: Hard bags
>
> 
> I betcha that check (if you ever get it) will bounce.
>
> Catfish
> www.FarkleMasters. com
> IBA #12835
> AMA Lifer #462122
>
> jim borton wrote:
> >
> > Latest Update...
> >
> > I talked to FMS today... They said they could not refund my money thru the credit card as I had paid... They will issue me a check... I paid last Dec.... Where in May... Do the math...
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: jim borton <gondola1545@ yahoo.com>
> > To: hondareflexowners@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 5:19:39 AM
> > Subject: Re: Honda Reflex Group Re: Hard bags
> >
> >
> > I tried to buy from them... Paid them last Dec... Still have not received my parts... I called and emailed them last week told them to refund my money on my credit card... They(Joe in parts) said they have a new mechanic in training...
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: csburridge <csburridge@ yahoo. com>
> > To: hondareflexowners@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 4:38:55 PM
> > Subject: Honda Reflex Group Re: Hard bags
> >
> >
> > Hi William,
> >
> > Yeah, those saddlebags look cool, but I can't make out the name on the side of the bag. I could not find an exact match, but I did find something close. The bike is either a Roadmaster 250 Special Edition(the bags make it special?), or a Roketa MC-54B 250. A company named Family Motorsports Inc. sells the bikes. Also, FMI states in their FAQ section they stock parts for everything they sell. Now I don't know if that includes the saddlebags and mounting hardware. but here's a link to them:
> >
> > http://www.family- motorsports. com/category_ s/117.htm
> >
> > Almost makes me want to buy a Roadmaster SE, just to tear it apart and find out what is Reflex and What is not. That might be fun.
> > Ride Safe
> >
> > Craig Burridge
> >
> > --- In hondareflexowners@ yahoogroups. com, "William" <clarkartistry@ ...> wrote:
> >> Found this picture of a clone with these nice saddlebags.. .would like to purchase some if anyone knows where...and they are not priced ridiculously. ..any suggestions? Here is a link to the pic.
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{Disarmed} Re: {Disarmed} Re: {Disarmed} Re: Honda Reflex Group Re:

Posted by: "George Giftos" gcgiftos@utmi.net   gcgiftos

Tue May 4, 2010 2:57 pm (PDT)



Jim,

The way to protect yourself in the future is to not pay for anything not yet received. If an outfit bills your credit card before shipping and the bill comes due, just call them and advise them that they should charge that transaction back until the item is shipped and received.

George

On May 4, 2010, at 12:58 PM, jim borton wrote:

> Hi George...
> I sent in a memo and talked to my credit card company... They said they could do nothing...
> Jim
>
> ________________________________
> From: George Giftos <gcgiftos@utmi.net>
> To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 4:06:49 AM
> Subject: {Disarmed} Re: Honda Reflex Group Re: Hard bags
>
> Jim,
>
> Did you call your credit card provider and explain the situation to them? Did you tell them that the supplier kept saying it was backordered and you never did receive the merchandise?
>
> George
>
> On May 3, 2010, at 7:58 PM, jim borton wrote:
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> > What are my options.... I paid months ago.... Don't see why they cant refund my money on the credit card....
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Catfish <CatfishRacing@GMail.com>
> > To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 4:54:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: Honda Reflex Group Re: Hard bags
> >
> >
> > I betcha that check (if you ever get it) will bounce.
> >
> > Catfish
> > www.FarkleMasters. com
> > IBA #12835
> > AMA Lifer #462122
> >
> > jim borton wrote:
> > >
> > > Latest Update...
> > >
> > > I talked to FMS today... They said they could not refund my money thru the credit card as I had paid... They will issue me a check... I paid last Dec.... Where in May... Do the math...
> > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > From: jim borton <gondola1545@ yahoo.com>
> > > To: hondareflexowners@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 5:19:39 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Honda Reflex Group Re: Hard bags
> > >
> > >
> > > I tried to buy from them... Paid them last Dec... Still have not received my parts... I called and emailed them last week told them to refund my money on my credit card... They(Joe in parts) said they have a new mechanic in training...
> > >
> > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > From: csburridge <csburridge@ yahoo. com>
> > > To: hondareflexowners@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 4:38:55 PM
> > > Subject: Honda Reflex Group Re: Hard bags
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi William,
> > >
> > > Yeah, those saddlebags look cool, but I can't make out the name on the side of the bag. I could not find an exact match, but I did find something close. The bike is either a Roadmaster 250 Special Edition(the bags make it special?), or a Roketa MC-54B 250. A company named Family Motorsports Inc. sells the bikes. Also, FMI states in their FAQ section they stock parts for everything they sell. Now I don't know if that includes the saddlebags and mounting hardware. but here's a link to them:
> > >
> > > http://www.family- motorsports. com/category_ s/117.htm
> > >
> > > Almost makes me want to buy a Roadmaster SE, just to tear it apart and find out what is Reflex and What is not. That might be fun.
> > > Ride Safe
> > >
> > > Craig Burridge
> > >
> > > --- In hondareflexowners@ yahoogroups. com, "William" <clarkartistry@ ...> wrote:
> > >> Found this picture of a clone with these nice saddlebags.. .would like to purchase some if anyone knows where...and they are not priced ridiculously. ..any suggestions? Here is a link to the pic.
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ABS Repair

Posted by: "Scott" bristers@mac.com   arsby56

Tue May 4, 2010 1:45 pm (PDT)



My 2001 Reflex had the front brake stiffen. Two different shops have told me the ABS needs to be replaced. The cost is $1,200 for the part alone. I don't understand this, since the difference in the ABS vs. the non-ABS models when I bought the bike was only $500.

Has any of you had the need to replace the ABS and what was the cost? Any guidance here would be helpful since this part will cost 1/4 of the original purchase, but substantially less than a new scooter.

Thanks for any input.

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Re: ABS Repair

Posted by: "tonymarchman@att.net" tonymarchman@att.net   tonymarchman@att.net

Tue May 4, 2010 3:54 pm (PDT)




41k miles and not replaced the abs. Most shops know svery little about these scooters. Let's see if someone has an idea about what your problem really is.
Tony in Tenn
--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "Scott" <bristers@...> wrote:
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> My 2001 Reflex had the front brake stiffen. Two different shops have told me the ABS needs to be replaced. The cost is $1,200 for the part alone. I don't understand this, since the difference in the ABS vs. the non-ABS models when I bought the bike was only $500.
>
> Has any of you had the need to replace the ABS and what was the cost? Any guidance here would be helpful since this part will cost 1/4 of the original purchase, but substantially less than a new scooter.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>

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2002 reflex

Posted by: "esvs" esvs@yahoo.com   esvs

Wed May 5, 2010 4:07 am (PDT)



Trying to sell 2002 reflex with 6500 original miles. Asking $1500.00 no takers for 6 months. Scooter is in excellent condition. Candy Red no ABS. What is the selling price ? Have been offered $700.00. NADA book value is $1600-$2100.00. Whats wrong.

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Re: 2002 reflex

Posted by: "Joe Barnhart" flaboye@gmail.com   jtbgnsv

Wed May 5, 2010 4:22 am (PDT)



Probably your area. Where are you located?

1500 is what I gave for my '01, so I wouldn't go lower than that.

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:06 AM, esvs <esvs@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> Trying to sell 2002 reflex with 6500 original miles. Asking $1500.00 no
> takers for 6 months. Scooter is in excellent condition. Candy Red no ABS.
> What is the selling price ? Have been offered $700.00. NADA book value is
> $1600-$2100.00. Whats wrong.
>
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Re: 2002 reflex

Posted by: "Ira K" bigirakay@yahoo.com   bigirakay

Wed May 5, 2010 4:45 am (PDT)



            That  is a very fair price.  Do you have it on Craigslist and most important do you have good large pictures.??   I sell many things on Craigslist  and they sell fast when I put up good pictures.   good luck    bigira 

--- On Wed, 5/5/10, Joe Barnhart <flaboye@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Joe Barnhart <flaboye@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Honda Reflex Group 2002 reflex
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 7:22 AM

Probably your area.  Where are you located?

1500 is what I gave for my '01, so I wouldn't go lower than
that.

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> Trying to sell 2002 reflex with 6500 original miles. Asking $1500.00 no
> takers for 6 months. Scooter is in excellent condition. Candy Red no ABS.
> What is the selling price ? Have been offered $700.00. NADA book value is
> $1600-$2100.00. Whats wrong.
>
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Re: 2002 reflex

Posted by: "Ira K" bigirakay@yahoo.com   bigirakay

Wed May 5, 2010 4:50 am (PDT)



   Where do you live???

--- On Wed, 5/5/10, esvs <esvs@yahoo.com> wrote:

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Subject: Honda Reflex Group 2002 reflex
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 7:06 AM

 

Trying to sell 2002 reflex with 6500 original miles. Asking $1500.00 no takers for 6 months. Scooter is in excellent condition. Candy Red no ABS. What is the selling price ? Have been offered $700.00. NADA book value is $1600-$2100. 00. Whats wrong.

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Thanks all

Posted by: "esvs" esvs@yahoo.com   esvs

Wed May 5, 2010 5:50 am (PDT)



I was getting shell shock from the offers I was getting. Live in Pompano Beach, Florida. You can ride every day. Just don't understand why it hasn't sold

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