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1a.: Front-end shimmy From: donedeal999
1b.: Re: Front-end shimmy From: jim borton
1c.: Re: {Disarmed} Honda Reflex Group Front-end shimmy From: George Giftos
1d.: Re: Front-end shimmy From: Jonathan Vaughn
1e.: Re: Front-end shimmy From: Scot Forry
1f.: Re: Front-end shimmy From: jd

2a.: Re: Scooter Road Rash From: wingit3611@aol.com

3.: off topic SW From: Joe Barnhart

4a.: Re: Rear Shock Pre-Load Setting and Rider Weight From: jd
4b.: Re: Rear Shock Pre-Load Setting and Rider Weight From: MichaelB

5a.: Reflex 250 Weight? From: badams6456
5b.: Re: Reflex 250 Weight? From: Michael
5c.: Re: Reflex 250 Weight? From: Jonathan Vaughn

6a.: Rear Brake Caliber Mounting Bolts From: daverymnd
6b.: Re: Rear Brake Caliber Mounting Bolts From: Tim Hansen

7a.: Re: Still hope for a new larger Honda scooter From: MichaelB

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1a.: Front-end shimmy

Posted by: "donedeal999" pal996@lycos.com donedeal999

Sun May 16, 2010 9:11 am (PDT)

I noticed that if I remove my hands from the handle bars while coasting to a stop my Reflex experiences a small amount of front-end shimmy starting at 35 mph and ending at 25 mph.

There is no noticable shimmy above 35 or below 25 mph.

There is no noticable shimmy if at least one hand is on the handle bar.

I checked the tire air pressure and play between handle bars and front wheel and all was OK.

Is this normal and if not, what else should I check?

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1b.: Re: Front-end shimmy

Posted by: "jim borton" gondola1545@yahoo.com gondola1545

Sun May 16, 2010 9:21 am (PDT)

What about the balance of the tires...

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From: donedeal999 <pal996@lycos.com>
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 9:10:09 AM
Subject: Honda Reflex Group Front-end shimmy

I noticed that if I remove my hands from the handle bars while coasting to a stop my Reflex experiences a small amount of front-end shimmy starting at 35 mph and ending at 25 mph.

There is no noticable shimmy above 35 or below 25 mph.

There is no noticable shimmy if at least one hand is on the handle bar.

I checked the tire air pressure and play between handle bars and front wheel and all was OK.

Is this normal and if not, what else should I check?

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1c.: Re: {Disarmed} Honda Reflex Group Front-end shimmy

Posted by: "George Giftos" gcgiftos@utmi.net gcgiftos

Sun May 16, 2010 4:49 pm (PDT)

I haven't tried it on mine, but others report a similar situation and it does appear to be normal. As long as you don't feel it while holding the handlebars, I wouldn't worry about it.

George

On May 16, 2010, at 12:10 PM, donedeal999 wrote:

> I noticed that if I remove my hands from the handle bars while coasting to a stop my Reflex experiences a small amount of front-end shimmy starting at 35 mph and ending at 25 mph.
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> There is no noticable shimmy above 35 or below 25 mph.
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> There is no noticable shimmy if at least one hand is on the handle bar.
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> I checked the tire air pressure and play between handle bars and front wheel and all was OK.
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> Is this normal and if not, what else should I check?
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1d.: Re: Front-end shimmy

Posted by: "Jonathan Vaughn" spotchicus@yahoo.com spotchicus

Sun May 16, 2010 5:35 pm (PDT)

The thought of letting go of my handlebars at any speed scares the piss out of me :)

Jon

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From: donedeal999 <pal996@lycos.com>
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 12:10:09 PM
Subject: Honda Reflex Group Front-end shimmy

I noticed that if I remove my hands from the handle bars while coasting to a stop my Reflex experiences a small amount of front-end shimmy starting at 35 mph and ending at 25 mph.

There is no noticable shimmy above 35 or below 25 mph.

There is no noticable shimmy if at least one hand is on the handle bar.

I checked the tire air pressure and play between handle bars and front wheel and all was OK.

Is this normal and if not, what else should I check?

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1e.: Re: Front-end shimmy

Posted by: "Scot Forry" scotforry@gmail.com s0m3th1ngw1ck3d

Sun May 16, 2010 5:45 pm (PDT)

Probably tire balance. Esp given the fact it goes away at certain speeds.
Also, over time, the front tire will wear a bit unveven (more left turns
than rights turns....and so on. That can also account for it.

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1f.: Re: Front-end shimmy

Posted by: "jd" robert@lumenosity.com lenzdudeaz1

Sun May 16, 2010 6:48 pm (PDT)

You also have to take into account that the front-end on the Reflex is very lightly loaded compared to a traditional motorcycle. Unevenness in the road surface, grooves, cracks and other things will grab onto that front wheel fairly easily.

It's not uncommon to be able to release pressure on a standard motorcycle - especially sport-bikes - and have it track straight without wobble, but it's a totally different frame and weight configuration too than a scooter.

As noted earlier it's never a good idea to release pressure during riding however if you feel that the handlebars are actually fighting you or you can feel a wobble even with normal handlebar pressure then you might have a problem with the steering head bearings or other frame-related issues.

Also, if your tires are near the tread-wear limit they'll become even more sensitive to road imperfections and be even more unstable.

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, Scot Forry <scotforry@...> wrote:
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> Probably tire balance. Esp given the fact it goes away at certain speeds.
> Also, over time, the front tire will wear a bit unveven (more left turns
> than rights turns....and so on. That can also account for it.
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2a.: Re: Scooter Road Rash

Posted by: "wingit3611@aol.com" wingit3611@aol.com wingit3611

Sun May 16, 2010 9:40 am (PDT)

There is also a _www.McCycles.com_ (http://www.McCycles.com) but I don't
know if they are good bad or indifferent. Rick in KY

Oooops -- sorry guys. I meant to type in www.MrCycles.com. There are other
websites that you can buy Reflex parts on too -- I just found this site
had the best prices I could find for new parts.

Steve (red 2007 Reflex Sport with new front end)

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3.: off topic SW

Posted by: "Joe Barnhart" flaboye@gmail.com jtbgnsv

Sun May 16, 2010 12:08 pm (PDT)

For anyone wanting a Silverwing, here's your chance to get one at an
affordable price!

http://gainesville.craigslist.org/mcy/1742553999.html

I am a bit negotiable for any list mates either here or on the silverwing or
vulcan list.

You can contact me off list if interested.

Sorry for the non-reflex time!

Joe

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4a.: Re: Rear Shock Pre-Load Setting and Rider Weight

Posted by: "jd" robert@lumenosity.com lenzdudeaz1

Sun May 16, 2010 6:43 pm (PDT)

I'm definitely overweight at 245 and I've got my shocks cranked to the highest setting and it seems to soak up bumps fine. However I do wish there were some aftermarket shocks that had rebound adjustments that would fit the Reflex.

As far as adjusting the rear shocks I see people looking for that special spanner wrench or wanting to use vice-grips. You don't need either, actually. You can use a combination of your own wrist power and, using the end of a philips screwdriver - or even a thick hex-wrench.

Just put the screwdriver or hex-wrench end into any of the holes in the lower section of the shock that the spanner wrench would normally grab onto. Use the tool to create more leverage for you while you concurrently turn it with your bare hand. The springs on the rear shocks really aren't that strong and it doesn't take much force to get them to ramp up to the next notch.

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "rcbloss" <rcbloss@...> wrote:
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> I just wanted to let everyone know that they should look closely at the rear shock setting on their scooters. When I bought my 2006 reflex about two weeks ago the shocks were adjusted to the 3 setting. After riding it for a while I noticed that the ride was harsh and bottoming out for the Ohio roads I was riding on. I weigh about 195lbs. and decided to move the setting up to 5. I took a ride and noticed that the ride quality was much improved. I think I will move it up one more notch to 6 and compare the two settings. I think the standard factory setting is designed for women and light weight men probably under 140lbs. I know when my wife starts riding with me 2 up, I will probably move the setting up to 7 or to the Higher setting on the shocks, as our combined weights will be about 340lbs. I would like to know if other reflex riders noticed this, and what their weight and shocks are set at? Thanks, Jim
>

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4b.: Re: Rear Shock Pre-Load Setting and Rider Weight

Posted by: "MichaelB" mikeveg@yahoo.com mikeveg

Mon May 17, 2010 4:51 am (PDT)

A standard AR-15/ M-16 stock wrench works on most motorcycle shocks.

Mike

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> --- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, jim borton <gondola1545@> wrote:
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> > Does anyone know where to buy the spanner wrench for the adjustable shock....

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5a.: Reflex 250 Weight?

Posted by: "badams6456" badams6456@yahoo.com badams6456

Sun May 16, 2010 8:53 pm (PDT)

What's the so-called dry weight of a bone stock 2002 Reflex non-ABS and non-Sport model? I've seen at least two web sites which shows it at 342 lbs. but my Haynes Techbook says 375 lbs. 342 seems too light so I'm guessing it's closer to 375. Am I correct?

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5b.: Re: Reflex 250 Weight?

Posted by: "Michael" mbr987@comcast.net bandito_two

Sun May 16, 2010 10:12 pm (PDT)

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "badams6456" <badams6456@...> wrote:
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> What's the so-called dry weight of a bone stock 2002 Reflex non-ABS and non-Sport model? I've seen at least two web sites which shows it at 342 lbs. but my Haynes Techbook says 375 lbs. 342 seems too light so I'm guessing it's closer to 375. Am I correct?
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I was thinking the 2004 Reflex I once owned was 375#. I searched the
web and find weights all over the place. Considering the Reflex had
some minor changes at the 2004 model, it seems to me too that 342#
looks a bit low. For 2007, weights vary between the model types, but
only by 6 pounds. From 373# for the Sport to 379# for the standard with
ABS brakes. Oddly, specs at some sites show weight of post 2003's as
351#. So who knows? The only way to tell for sure would be to make an
actual weighing of the bike and make an educated guesstimate of the
weight of the fluids on board and deduct it to get the dry weight. Gas,
oil - about 6#/gal. Water is roughly 8# a gallon. Not sure of the
coolant volume, but crankcase oil, gear oil, and brake fluid combined
would be in the neighborhood of 2 pounds give or take. My best guess is
that the weight is, at the least 351# and more likely is 375ish pounds.
You are probably right. Why so serious?(about the weight I mean)

Mike B.

(Rochester Hills Michigan Double Dark Side Rider)
(2007 Honda NSS250S Reflex Sport "Scarlet")
(2006 Honda FSC600A Silverwing "Jester")

"Great ideas often receive violent opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein

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5c.: Re: Reflex 250 Weight?

Posted by: "Jonathan Vaughn" spotchicus@yahoo.com spotchicus

Mon May 17, 2010 5:41 am (PDT)

The service manual implies that it's closer to 375 (with the wet weights ranging from 392 (sport, no abs) to 401 (non-sport, abs).

Jon

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From: badams6456 <badams6456@yahoo.com>
To: hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 11:52:12 PM
Subject: Honda Reflex Group Reflex 250 Weight?

What's the so-called dry weight of a bone stock 2002 Reflex non-ABS and non-Sport model? I've seen at least two web sites which shows it at 342 lbs. but my Haynes Techbook says 375 lbs. 342 seems too light so I'm guessing it's closer to 375. Am I correct?

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6a.: Rear Brake Caliber Mounting Bolts

Posted by: "daverymnd" daverymnd@yahoo.com daverymnd

Sun May 16, 2010 9:31 pm (PDT)

I notice that the Service Manual for my Reflex calls for replacing the Rear Caliber Mounting Bolts each time the Caliber is removed. Anyone know why this is a requirement?

Dave

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6b.: Re: Rear Brake Caliber Mounting Bolts

Posted by: "Tim Hansen" phreadbarnz@gmail.com phreadbarnz

Sun May 16, 2010 10:39 pm (PDT)

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From: "daverymnd" <daverymnd@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 9:29 PM
To: <hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Honda Reflex Group Rear Brake Caliber Mounting Bolts

> I notice that the Service Manual for my Reflex calls for replacing the
> Rear Caliber Mounting Bolts each time the Caliber is removed. Anyone know
> why this is a requirement?
>
>
> Dave
>

Probably because you are dealing with brake operations and lawyers are
involved.
TravlinTim (who doesn't install new Rear Caliber Mounting Bolts each time
his Caliber is removed) Hansen
phreadbarnz@gmail.com

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7a.: Re: Still hope for a new larger Honda scooter

Posted by: "MichaelB" mikeveg@yahoo.com mikeveg

Mon May 17, 2010 4:37 am (PDT)

At 280 lbs wet (the bike, not ME!), I'm OK with a drum brake on the rear, and the 14" tires make real world roads a bit more comfortable that the 12 and 13's we are running. The fuel injection is a boon, too.

How about a 350-400cc model with a 320 lb wet weight and an adjustable windscreen, Honda??????

--- In hondareflexowners@yahoogroups.com, "thebubblepuppy2004" <bubblepuppy@...> wrote:
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> http://powersports.honda.com/2011/pcx.aspx
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